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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#1041
Highly leveraged mistakes seems like EE's specialty.

Though Secret should, hopefully, be playing a ton better by the end of the tournament. It feels like Puppey hasn't quite figured out how he wants to use Universe, as well. (He played better in game 2, but it seemed like a lot of gold that didn't do much damage by the end.)

Kind of wish we had the MDL format. I'd have liked to see all of the teams play off in a Bo2 before a bracket.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#1042
On May 10 2016 21:10 goody153 wrote:
well azarkon u have no excuse now the tean you called "top western team" lost to newbee xD (no backing out of your word now)

did he actually say Secret was a top western team? that could be his escape route.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#1043
On May 10 2016 21:06 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 21:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 10 2016 21:00 turpentine wrote:
On May 10 2016 20:47 Taf the Ghost wrote:
There were so many spots that Secret just didn't jump the supports, let Kaka live long enough to do Wisp things.

Arteezy really seemed to play pretty badly far too often.

Congrats to Newbee on winning a game they really should have lost.


I don't agree with the "should have lost". Their high ground defense was amazing, and they had a very easy time running away from the BKBs/DP ult due to Secret's draft, which is why they kept surviving. Once they had double ravage they could very easily cut off the Secret cores from the supports. And eventually they just outscaled Secret.

While EE made mistakes on the huskar, Newbee overall did a huge amount of work in just stalling.


They weren't able to end the game because of two big mistakes by EternalEnvy and Arteezy, both of which set the game back two minutes each. Four minutes is a lot in Dota, and it was what gave Newbee the time to get what they need.

It was an amazing game from newbee, they were very disciplined. The team making the less mistakes winning is true in every team game or sport. If anything it proves they are better than secret, which tbh does not mean much atm. But their streak means something.
They beat a Secret that have only beat EHome, and lost twice to Empire. Then they beat CoL and DiG, and finally numberous of Chinese teams, whose strength is hard to quantify(much like much of the others in Dota currently).
LiangHao
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#1044
On May 10 2016 21:10 goody153 wrote:
well azarkon u have no excuse now the tean you called "top western team" lost to newbee xD (no backing out of your word now)

I thought it was customary for azarkon to start with western hype into EU+NA hype into NA hype into EG hype into PPD hype?
Korean overlords
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 12:12:32
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#1045
On May 10 2016 21:11 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 21:10 goody153 wrote:
well azarkon u have no excuse now the tean you called "top western team" lost to newbee xD (no backing out of your word now)

did he actually say Secret was a top western team? that could be his escape route.


Why wouldn't they be?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#1046
On May 10 2016 21:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Friendly reminder that Newbee isn't the strongest Chinese team yet.

oh do tell me more
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
May 10 2016 12:12 GMT
#1047
I think it's safe to say that dota and especially pro teams make no goddamn sense whatsoever now, if they ever did at any point in the past. I think that's exciting. I wonder what will happen when Azarkon runs out of koolaid mix?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 10 2016 12:12 GMT
#1048
On May 10 2016 21:11 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 21:10 goody153 wrote:
well azarkon u have no excuse now the tean you called "top western team" lost to newbee xD (no backing out of your word now)

did he actually say Secret was a top western team? that could be his escape route.

yup
On May 10 2016 19:07 Azarkon wrote:
Newbee doesn't win every team fight now that they're against a top Western team, are they?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 10 2016 12:12 GMT
#1049
Yeah, I'm sure the AA is super happy with his team losing a fight 0-3

"It went pretty well"
-Purge 2016.
super gg
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
May 10 2016 12:12 GMT
#1050
he got his agh's #worth
rip
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 10 2016 12:13 GMT
#1051
I mean he bought out for his agha just before he died so he made the best situation our of what happened.
WriterXiao8~~
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
May 10 2016 12:13 GMT
#1052
coL ganksquad was strong but Liquid's teamfight is just better
rip
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 10 2016 12:13 GMT
#1053
what was that urn use before tping out?
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 10 2016 12:13 GMT
#1054
CoL lost rax. I'm sure it went pretty well according to Purge.
super gg
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 10 2016 12:14 GMT
#1055
On May 10 2016 21:11 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Friendly reminder that Newbee isn't the strongest Chinese team yet.

Not sure about that, NB got 15 wins in a row now, they are beyond godlike ATM
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings#team
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 10 2016 12:14 GMT
#1056
lol beast master Lycan rip base
WriterXiao8~~
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
May 10 2016 12:14 GMT
#1057
That armlet toggle
Korean overlords
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 10 2016 12:14 GMT
#1058
On May 10 2016 21:11 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Highly leveraged mistakes seems like EE's specialty.

Though Secret should, hopefully, be playing a ton better by the end of the tournament. It feels like Puppey hasn't quite figured out how he wants to use Universe, as well. (He played better in game 2, but it seemed like a lot of gold that didn't do much damage by the end.)

Kind of wish we had the MDL format. I'd have liked to see all of the teams play off in a Bo2 before a bracket.

i wish that one group round robin returned tbh just make it b02

gsl groups is unsatisfying and flawed as hell .. less games for fans of any teams even the shitty ones and more doubt on whoever progresses since they only play 2-3 teams to get to playoffs
this is a quote
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 10 2016 12:14 GMT
#1059
What a fish, it makes slark proud.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
May 10 2016 12:15 GMT
#1060
So the question is will Col prove they have Fantasy GG timing and we should endure 15-20 more min of agony?
People call me Jack, OMASJack
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