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On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE
That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well.
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I like how PPD is already in a pub game. They're not wasting time pubbing right now.
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bulba is trying to convince ppd how good core mirana. afterall liquid won every game with the strat
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On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well.
Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh
I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still.
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bulba himself is pretty questionable in the games I caught him so.
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On April 29 2016 06:28 Danzo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:25 Shaella wrote:
Bloodthorne is broken i'm calling it
Crits on every hit is icefraud crazy? The CD is way too short imo.
it also cost 7.3k gold
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On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still.
By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY?????
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Problems playing around Bulba might be why PPD keeps using Fear this way. Otherwise I don't understand why you don't just pick a support for Fear and have him help Bulba get farm. Instead they leave Bulba to himself and then play around Fear.
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On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY?????
? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck?
We talking about the same hero here?
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On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE
Ahhh, glad to know Mirana is just the same as she was when I stopped playing her over a year ago.
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On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here?
you're arguing with a 2k player who has no memory of c9 or eg playing the hero around ti4 dont worry about it
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On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here?
I never said it was not possible. I only said that many, many, many other heroes do it better. That build would have been fine if the team had more damage to back it up.
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On April 29 2016 06:42 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:28 Danzo wrote:On April 29 2016 06:25 Shaella wrote:
Bloodthorne is broken i'm calling it
Crits on every hit is icefraud crazy? The CD is way too short imo. it also cost 7.3k gold
it amplfifes damage x1.3+ for EVERYONE attacking the target.
it's as OP as it gets, really.
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On April 29 2016 06:46 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here? I never said it was not possible. I only said that many, many, many other heroes do it better. That build would have been fine if the team had more damage to back it up.
Yes, but then again, given that they were not going to have a support in middle, while MVP can easily have one middle, which other hero would not get shut down?
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On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here?
how is she playable as a right clicker when there are much better alternatives? even if you were to get the most insane items for mirana, she's only good if you're 1 1/2 items ahead of the enemy carry.
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On April 29 2016 06:47 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:46 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here? I never said it was not possible. I only said that many, many, many other heroes do it better. That build would have been fine if the team had more damage to back it up. Yes, but then again, given that they were not going to have a support in middle, while MVP can easily have one middle, which other hero would not get shut down?
That part is hard and the real limiting part of enigma drafts I think. You risk sacking 2 lanes.
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On April 29 2016 06:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:47 Azarkon wrote:On April 29 2016 06:46 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here? I never said it was not possible. I only said that many, many, many other heroes do it better. That build would have been fine if the team had more damage to back it up. Yes, but then again, given that they were not going to have a support in middle, while MVP can easily have one middle, which other hero would not get shut down? That part is hard and the real limiting part of enigma drafts I think. You risk sacking 2 lanes.
Yes, and that's why I believe this hero is the problem, from the start.
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On April 29 2016 06:48 Kuroeeah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here? how is she playable as a right clicker when there are much better alternatives? even if you were to get the most insane items for mirana, she's only good if you're 1 1/2 items ahead of the enemy carry.
Is this thread the real life?
Na'vi JUST played and won with a carry Mirana like five hours ago or something. Literally.
The hero's been out of favor recently but carry Mirana was not uncommon a couple years back.
Have you guys been playing Dota for like 3 days or something
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On April 29 2016 06:43 Azarkon wrote:
Problems playing around Bulba might be why PPD keeps using Fear this way. Otherwise I don't understand why you don't just pick a support for Fear and have him help Bulba get farm. Instead they leave Bulba to himself and then play around Fear.
I get the feeling that Enigma is one of those picks that's scrimmed among the top teams and works online & in scrims because the reaction times are just slightly slower. (Both from the lack of competitive nature & lag) Those very tiny differences are all it takes to turn a fight with Black Hole.
That, and they're probably most practiced playing that way coming in, so they're running strategies they're comfortable with. It's new roster, Day 1 EG, new patch and Bo1. I think we actually should be surprised how well it went, given EG's general history, lol.
Still, I look forward to the games tomorrow. MVP.P vs Na'Vi should be nuts.
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On April 29 2016 06:50 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 06:48 Kuroeeah wrote:On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero? He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well. Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still. By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY????? ? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck? We talking about the same hero here? how is she playable as a right clicker when there are much better alternatives? even if you were to get the most insane items for mirana, she's only good if you're 1 1/2 items ahead of the enemy carry. Is this thread the real life? Na'vi JUST played and won with a carry Mirana like five hours ago or something. Literally. The hero's been out of favor recently but carry Mirana was not uncommon a couple years back. Have you guys been playing Dota for like 3 days or something
oh right we're using a top tier team like na'vi as an example for why mirana right clicks good. my mistake.
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