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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 28 2016 21:26 GMT
#841
wisp-bristle'd lol
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
April 28 2016 21:27 GMT
#842
On April 29 2016 06:24 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:23 Azarkon wrote:
Fear is in no way playing bad. The hero is the problem.

either it's china or it's the hero. of course


Literally any other of Sumail's mids (or even a "normal" Potm build) and EG wipes that fight with Fear's 4-man black hole. Then everyone would be like WOAH EG WOAH FEAR WHAT A TEAM GREAT ENIGMA

They had no damage to kill anyone and bunched up for the counter. Naturally this is not a problem with the team but with Enigma because EG isn't Chinese though, and only Chinese teams play bad or make strategic errors.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 28 2016 21:27 GMT
#843
But we'll get Koreans against Natus Vincere with this.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 21:27 GMT
#844
That's depressing. Aui came online a little too late.
Getting too old for this..
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2016 21:27 GMT
#845
On April 29 2016 06:26 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:24 Artisreal wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:23 Azarkon wrote:
Fear is in no way playing bad. The hero is the problem.

either it's china or it's the hero. of course

Enigma a one trick pony and requires to many items. And every pro team knows how to avoid getting hit by the black hole.

Enigma's best when he has a setup

Yes. You need another hero to set him up. But when you draft him, you normally end up sacking your off lane. Game is hard.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#846
How'd MVP vs EG go it sounded like ridiculous shit happened with Enigma. MVP vs Na'Vi's gonna be fun if we get promised Korea vs CIS aggression.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 21:28:47
April 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#847
On April 29 2016 06:27 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:24 Artisreal wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:23 Azarkon wrote:
Fear is in no way playing bad. The hero is the problem.

either it's china or it's the hero. of course


Literally any other of Sumail's mids (or even a "normal" Potm build) and EG wipes that fight with Fear's 4-man black hole. Then everyone would be like WOAH EG WOAH FEAR WHAT A TEAM GREAT ENIGMA

They had no damage to kill anyone and bunched up for the counter. Naturally this is not a problem with the team but with Enigma because EG isn't Chinese though, and only Chinese teams play bad or make strategic errors.


It's as though you don't understand what they have to give up by using that hero.

Why do you think they lose early game every game?
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#848
On April 29 2016 06:25 Shaella wrote:
Bloodthorne is broken i'm calling it

Crits on every hit is icefraud crazy?


The CD is way too short imo.
Getting too old for this..
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#849
I don't remember Bulba's Beastmaster shouting at anyone that whole game
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
April 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#850
CoL would beat 2-1 this kind of EG right now, I think.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2016 21:28 GMT
#851
On April 29 2016 06:27 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:24 Artisreal wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:23 Azarkon wrote:
Fear is in no way playing bad. The hero is the problem.

either it's china or it's the hero. of course


Literally any other of Sumail's mids (or even a "normal" Potm build) and EG wipes that fight with Fear's 4-man black hole. Then everyone would be like WOAH EG WOAH FEAR WHAT A TEAM GREAT ENIGMA

They had no damage to kill anyone and bunched up for the counter. Naturally this is not a problem with the team but with Enigma because EG isn't Chinese though, and only Chinese teams play bad or make strategic errors.

Pretty sure you just replace weaver with any hero that isn't shit and the game is fine. Like, sven or one of the 19 other physical damage cores that are not that hero.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
April 28 2016 21:29 GMT
#852
On April 29 2016 06:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I don't remember Bulba's Beastmaster shouting at anyone that whole game

he did shouting

i saw some

Some were shit tho
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 28 2016 21:29 GMT
#853
On April 29 2016 06:28 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
CoL would beat 2-1 this kind of EG right now, I think.


The lack of Universe is showing in this EG. Bulba getting stomped twice in his lane.
Getting too old for this..
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 28 2016 21:30 GMT
#854
Bulba will lose no matter what just because they have two support while he has one.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 28 2016 21:30 GMT
#855
EG have the problem of running out of damage when they go for these Enigma drafts. I think, against better teams, it just has to eat up too much resources when you don't land the first 1-2 for good kills. When it works, it snowballs. When it doesn't, well, they run out of damage. (MVP.P also drafted their "3 cores, hope 2 get farm" approach, which worked this game.)

Still, they looked better than Secret did, Day 1 at ESL One Manila.
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
April 28 2016 21:30 GMT
#856
Man this tournament seems like it wouldve been a really easy 2nd place for TL :/
EXTERMINATE!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2016 21:31 GMT
#857
On April 29 2016 06:29 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:28 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
CoL would beat 2-1 this kind of EG right now, I think.


The lack of Universe is showing in this EG. Bulba getting stomped twice in his lane.

They threw Bulba to the dogs both games. Its very hard to win your off lane when enigma is on the team and the other support is babysitting a shitty weaver.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
April 28 2016 21:31 GMT
#858
On April 29 2016 06:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:29 Danzo wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:28 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
CoL would beat 2-1 this kind of EG right now, I think.


The lack of Universe is showing in this EG. Bulba getting stomped twice in his lane.

They threw Bulba to the dogs both games. Its very hard to win your off lane when enigma is on the team and the other support is babysitting a shitty weaver.

p6 is talking intelligently about dota i'm losing it
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
April 28 2016 21:31 GMT
#859
On April 29 2016 06:28 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:27 uriel- wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:24 Artisreal wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:23 Azarkon wrote:
Fear is in no way playing bad. The hero is the problem.

either it's china or it's the hero. of course


Literally any other of Sumail's mids (or even a "normal" Potm build) and EG wipes that fight with Fear's 4-man black hole. Then everyone would be like WOAH EG WOAH FEAR WHAT A TEAM GREAT ENIGMA

They had no damage to kill anyone and bunched up for the counter. Naturally this is not a problem with the team but with Enigma because EG isn't Chinese though, and only Chinese teams play bad or make strategic errors.


It's as though you don't understand what they have to give up by using that hero.

Why do you think they lose early game every game?


but when Chinese pick the same heroes and lost, you stated that they didn't practice, and fell behind in understanding.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 28 2016 21:31 GMT
#860
On April 29 2016 06:30 Taf the Ghost wrote:
EG have the problem of running out of damage when they go for these Enigma drafts. I think, against better teams, it just has to eat up too much resources when you don't land the first 1-2 for good kills. When it works, it snowballs. When it doesn't, well, they run out of damage. (MVP.P also drafted their "3 cores, hope 2 get farm" approach, which worked this game.)

Still, they looked better than Secret did, Day 1 at ESL One Manila.

eh Secret got completely outdraft that series.pretty easy to look bad
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