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Indonesia4317 Posts
April 28 2016 23:30 GMT
#921
Hit and miss ny CIS
Group A CIS beaten by Peru
Group B CIS beating dotapit finalists
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 28 2016 23:48 GMT
#922
its not hard guys

kill the wisp and the bristle dies
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 29 2016 00:14 GMT
#923
On April 29 2016 08:30 Vertical wrote:
Hit and miss ny CIS
Group A CIS beaten by Peru
Group B CIS beating dotapit finalists

Well, it's Russian doto. There's a reason it's the best doto.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 29 2016 00:31 GMT
#924
On April 29 2016 09:14 IntoTheheart wrote:
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On April 29 2016 08:30 Vertical wrote:
Hit and miss ny CIS
Group A CIS beaten by Peru
Group B CIS beating dotapit finalists

Well, it's Russian doto. There's a reason it's the best doto.


If you want a heart attack twice a week. ^_^
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 29 2016 01:20 GMT
#925
Don't you like the entertainment?

It's certainly more interesting that PPD Doto. Keke
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Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 01:56:33
April 29 2016 01:56 GMT
#926
On April 29 2016 10:20 TanGeng wrote:
Don't you like the entertainment?

It's certainly more interesting that PPD Doto. Keke

anytime PPD is beated to pulp is entertainment for me
and boy oh boy they were raped by experimental pos 4 riki CIS doto yesterday, LELZ
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 29 2016 04:28 GMT
#927
On April 29 2016 06:56 uriel- wrote:
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On April 29 2016 06:49 Plansix wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:47 Azarkon wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:46 Plansix wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:44 uriel- wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:42 Plansix wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:41 uriel- wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:39 Plansix wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:38 uriel- wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:35 Dysisa wrote:
Genuine question; did Suma1l hit a single arrow today? On an enemy hero?


He did, he landed a perfect max-range arrow on an ember farming bottom solo but couldn't kill him because he did NO DAMAGE


That hero is terrible at right clicking, so its understandable. The problem is the rest of that draft was terrible at it as well.


Mirana is pretty alright at right clicking if she doesn't go Midas Aghs Blink tbh

I guess they didn't expect Weaver to have that slow a start but still.

By all right, you mean, "they would be better drafting any other hero on the planet to right click things as a mid." She is like Puck level of right click potential. Sure, it can happen, but WHY?????


? Mirana has been playable as a right click dps since the beginning of time, how is she comparable to puck?

We talking about the same hero here?

I never said it was not possible. I only said that many, many, many other heroes do it better. That build would have been fine if the team had more damage to back it up.


Yes, but then again, given that they were not going to have a support in middle, while MVP can easily have one middle, which other hero would not get shut down?

That part is hard and the real limiting part of enigma drafts I think. You risk sacking 2 lanes.


Mirana won mid handily and led the team in net worth pretty much for the entire game until the buyback, when they already lost. If you want to say sumail was "shut down", his build did it for him, not the Enigma.

The risk of "sacking two lanes" comes with the benefit of possibly "winning 4 lanes" if you don't fall too far behind and get to abuse the jungle with the fastest jungler in the game. This was in fact what TI4 EG (and TI5 secret) abused over and over. Zai's Enigma was a must-ban, if you recall. Of course the meta has moved on, but the idea has not changed. The problem with this draft was that they had no follow up to the Enigma, whether because of misplays in the lane or poor strategic decisions as the game went on.

I sympathize with Azarkon's need to rationalize EG's defeat in any possible way other than "they fucked up" but he really needs to do a better job of it.


Umm just to nitpick. Enigma isn't the fastest jungler in the game. Very certain broodmother is even if its purely jungle (ie. Jungle from level 1).

On topic, sumail went for a very farm oriented build with both midas and agha. Agha can be considered a good fighting item if you're ahead, but when you're not all it provides is flash farming. Then factor that he bought a blink to complement it. I don't think that's the right call given how the game was going. He should have moved towards DPS items after agha.
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