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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
April 23 2016 17:35 GMT
#1901
On April 24 2016 02:33 Papercappu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

that's why he got kicked

No he got kicked for only playing one and a half heroes lol, in addition to being childish. I'm going to laugh my ass off when some on gives him a ticket so he can finally make it to a TI.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
April 23 2016 17:36 GMT
#1902
On April 24 2016 02:34 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:31 saddaromma wrote:
empire roster is so young, most of them are teenagers

most of pro gamers are teenager


Median age probably like 21 if you count that as teenager then yes.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 23 2016 17:36 GMT
#1903
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 17:36 GMT
#1904
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

I don't mind though
-Terran-
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 23 2016 17:37 GMT
#1905
On April 24 2016 02:34 trifecta wrote:
took Puppey this entire lan to realize he can't beat 6.86 enchantress

he is the best enchan player, but he did not pick her
wonder why
6nnn
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
April 23 2016 17:37 GMT
#1906
On April 24 2016 02:36 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite

Uh yes ?
Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
April 23 2016 17:38 GMT
#1907
On April 24 2016 02:36 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite


Well if I am to have a career in a trade, I don't go showing off how idiot I am to thousands of people, including my possible future employers/work buddies.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 23 2016 17:38 GMT
#1908
On April 24 2016 02:37 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:34 trifecta wrote:
took Puppey this entire lan to realize he can't beat 6.86 enchantress

he is the best enchan player, but he did not pick her
wonder why

i always assumed its because so teams won't ban her. but he doesnt even pick her at the majors
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 23 2016 17:38 GMT
#1909
On April 24 2016 02:36 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite

That's not Secret`s fault, but rather Valve`s for implementing a system without two dates.
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 23 2016 17:39 GMT
#1910
On April 24 2016 02:38 Mosoball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:36 Kabras wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite


Well if I am to have a career in a trade, I don't go showing off how idiot I am to thousands of people, including my possible future employers/work buddies.

Jesus christ It's probably all a funny joke to them. chill Out everyone. Friendly banter makes for fun storylines.
The Bomber boy
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3791 Posts
April 23 2016 17:39 GMT
#1911
Seriously I had really high expectations for this Secret squad that I expected them to come out roaring like DK 2014 did owning everyone left and right before they got ICefrog patched 3months later slowing their momentum temporarily.

Universe is one of the best offlaners by virtue of being hard to really push him out of lane and deny him the level and farm he gets.

RTZ is a great mid lane farmer.

EE is a very flexible carry.

Obviously DK 2014 had different strengths. Icex3 was one of the best midlaners and he translated that strength into winning the offlane even when against a dual lane. Mushi had a very wide hero pool with his Invoker weakness covered by Burning and Iceiceice. Burning's game sense made for far more stable play than EE.

LanM has always been up there as being one of the best drafters with the biggest difference with Puppy is his larger experience as core and support.

MMY is the one player who is in all counts better instead of arguably different from Pieliedie.


What went so wrong here?
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 23 2016 17:40 GMT
#1912
On April 24 2016 02:35 Velzi wrote:
So which match will be played first tomorrow, sidebar here in liquiddota indicates its Liquid vs Empire but Liquipedia says its Fnatic vs Wings?

Seems like its Fnatic vs Wings first (yay get to sleep little longer )

Thx for the answers guys.

.

.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 17:46:16
April 23 2016 17:42 GMT
#1913
On April 24 2016 02:35 Jaaaaasper wrote:
No he got kicked for only playing one and a half heroes lol, in addition to being childish.


Thats still one and a half more heroes than what Puppy can play :D
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 23 2016 17:42 GMT
#1914
On April 24 2016 02:38 Mosoball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:36 Kabras wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite


Well if I am to have a career in a trade, I don't go showing off how idiot I am to thousands of people, including my possible future employers/work buddies.


Well, esports is kind of special since 90% of the players show off how dumb they are when it comes to anything except for the game they play. So w33 is no different.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 23 2016 17:43 GMT
#1915
On April 24 2016 02:39 mutantmagnet wrote:
Seriously I had really high expectations for this Secret squad that I expected them to come out roaring like DK 2014 did owning everyone left and right before they got ICefrog patched 3months later slowing their momentum temporarily.

Universe is one of the best offlaners by virtue of being hard to really push him out of lane and deny him the level and farm he gets.

RTZ is a great mid lane farmer.

EE is a very flexible carry.

Obviously DK 2014 had different strengths. Icex3 was one of the best midlaners and he translated that strength into winning the offlane even when against a dual lane. Mushi had a very wide hero pool with his Invoker weakness covered by Burning and Iceiceice. Burning's game sense made for far more stable play than EE.

LanM has always been up there as being one of the best drafters with the biggest difference with Puppy is his larger experience as core and support.

MMY is the one player who is in all counts better instead of arguably different from Pieliedie.


What went so wrong here?

drafts are more volatile nowadays
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 17:44:28
April 23 2016 17:43 GMT
#1916
idk why secret fans go to everyone except puppey, game 2 he didnt do well and game 3 he is responsible for the draft. wyvern naix ??
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 23 2016 17:43 GMT
#1917
On April 24 2016 02:39 mutantmagnet wrote:
Seriously I had really high expectations for this Secret squad that I expected them to come out roaring like DK 2014 did owning everyone left and right before they got ICefrog patched 3months later slowing their momentum temporarily.

Universe is one of the best offlaners by virtue of being hard to really push him out of lane and deny him the level and farm he gets.

RTZ is a great mid lane farmer.

EE is a very flexible carry.

Obviously DK 2014 had different strengths. Icex3 was one of the best midlaners and he translated that strength into winning the offlane even when against a dual lane. Mushi had a very wide hero pool with his Invoker weakness covered by Burning and Iceiceice. Burning's game sense made for far more stable play than EE.

LanM has always been up there as being one of the best drafters with the biggest difference with Puppy is his larger experience as core and support.

MMY is the one player who is in all counts better instead of arguably different from Pieliedie.


What went so wrong here?

Archetypes can exist, but people need to be used to playing with each other, need to feel alright, need to play like a team, and need to trust each other. I don't blame Universe for underperforming, exactly cause he was used to PPD's regime and probably needs time to get used to how stuff is done in secret. PLD did stuff, but Puppey wasn't that amazing, EE performed well the first two games, and RTZ tried his best. People will probably blame the one I mentioned last, but 1 player shouldn't shoulder all of the burden. Empire was a better team because they played more like a team.
The Bomber boy
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3791 Posts
April 23 2016 17:44 GMT
#1918
On April 24 2016 02:43 Papercappu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:39 mutantmagnet wrote:
Seriously I had really high expectations for this Secret squad that I expected them to come out roaring like DK 2014 did owning everyone left and right before they got ICefrog patched 3months later slowing their momentum temporarily.

Universe is one of the best offlaners by virtue of being hard to really push him out of lane and deny him the level and farm he gets.

RTZ is a great mid lane farmer.

EE is a very flexible carry.

Obviously DK 2014 had different strengths. Icex3 was one of the best midlaners and he translated that strength into winning the offlane even when against a dual lane. Mushi had a very wide hero pool with his Invoker weakness covered by Burning and Iceiceice. Burning's game sense made for far more stable play than EE.

LanM has always been up there as being one of the best drafters with the biggest difference with Puppy is his larger experience as core and support.

MMY is the one player who is in all counts better instead of arguably different from Pieliedie.


What went so wrong here?

drafts are more volatile nowadays


DK were drafting everything under the sun.

Never forget support Jug.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 23 2016 17:44 GMT
#1919
Black Holes in Empire vs Secret 2:

Enigma: 8 casts, 777 dmg, 0:19 stun

Rubick: 3 casts, 5996 dmg, 0:44 stun

fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 23 2016 17:44 GMT
#1920
On April 24 2016 02:38 Mosoball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:36 Kabras wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:33 Mosoball wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:28 Zea! wrote:
https://twitter.com/w33haa/status/723926421479936000


Am I the one who thinks w33's attitude is extremely childish?

yea cuz secret is entitled to fucking him over 4 days before roster lock and he should just stfu and take it amirite


Well if I am to have a career in a trade, I don't go showing off how idiot I am to thousands of people, including my possible future employers/work buddies.

yea yea bring on the business side of things, nobody's ever allowed to say anything about secret no matter how terrible they play. what employer in their right mind would get turned off by that tweet? it's banter at most, indirect at that. u wanna know who looks like an idiot? the guy who weeks ago had a championship winning team and now has this rofl
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
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