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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
March 02 2016 09:07 GMT
#1701
is this okay to show on youtube?
this is some r-18 massacre right now
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
March 02 2016 09:08 GMT
#1702
Not just mvp playing well, lgd is just playing bad.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
March 02 2016 09:09 GMT
#1703
Such a pleasure to see Chen have no impact
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 09:09:34
March 02 2016 09:09 GMT
#1704
Anyone who thought they were suddenly going to improve gave me lelz. You guys still don't learn when it comes to Chinese teams.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
March 02 2016 09:09 GMT
#1705
On March 02 2016 18:02 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 17:52 Racket wrote:
I don't get it, a lot of people blaming Valve, a lot defending Valve.
Whether they are to blame or not, you must think this:
- If you are gonna outsource your second most important tournament, you should at least demand some kind of standards
- If the standards are not met then you should hire another organization
- If there is none other then you should realize that demands could be forced with more money
- If you don't step up on the money then you are to blame simply because you accepted your terms were not met and went on with it
- If you know all this and host a Major in China anyway then you are doing it wrong and you are to blame

China has history, their tournaments are always the messiest ones, if you don't know that then I don't know what you are doing as one of the largest gaming companies in the world.


Outsourcing is the easiest way for a company to do nothing and achieve the desired result, outsourcing means spending more money while bearing less responsibilities, if they (as any other company) don't want to deal with the whole thing, it is safe to outsource but it is their job to ensure standards are met.

When you buy a computer that doesn't work properly you blame the brand not the factory, and when you see it was assembled/made in China you know why it works the way it does and then you realize that company loves to save money instead of delivering a good product.
The day you decide to buy a japanese Fender instead of a chinese one is the day you realize any Major hosted in China will worse than any other Major, as long as the choice to host it there is Valve's and the standards are not forced, it is Valve's fault.

This field of work is not based on promises and and friendship, at least not for such a large tournament. Valve is not allowed to wield the "they delivered something different than the contract we signed with them" argument.


They can blame whoever they want but it won't change shit. Chinese companies don't care about the English audience. They get no/little benefit from making sure it works for us, so they don't even try. The best choice is to not hold it in China, of course. But the next best choice is to just not use a Chinese company, and to run the whole English side from another country.

All these problems were avoided in a lot of earlier tournaments simply by not having the English people in China when the tournament is going on. THAT is the source of these problems.

how is this relevant when it's the entire production that's a mess? hugely delayed games. non-soundproof booths
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 02 2016 09:09 GMT
#1706
i really dont understand the decision making here...

why would u even both to contest rune when your opponent have that kinda of line up
Rillanon.au
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
March 02 2016 09:10 GMT
#1707
11 minute level 6 chen
oh buddy oh boy, that's when you know,
game is hard.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Khz
Profile Joined March 2011
126 Posts
March 02 2016 09:10 GMT
#1708
Went to buy groceries after the Alliance vs Liquid series ended and now I'm opening the stream to see game one has just started. Seems like everything is still going as smoothly as it has thus far.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 02 2016 09:11 GMT
#1709
On March 02 2016 18:09 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 18:02 Azarkon wrote:
On March 02 2016 17:52 Racket wrote:
I don't get it, a lot of people blaming Valve, a lot defending Valve.
Whether they are to blame or not, you must think this:
- If you are gonna outsource your second most important tournament, you should at least demand some kind of standards
- If the standards are not met then you should hire another organization
- If there is none other then you should realize that demands could be forced with more money
- If you don't step up on the money then you are to blame simply because you accepted your terms were not met and went on with it
- If you know all this and host a Major in China anyway then you are doing it wrong and you are to blame

China has history, their tournaments are always the messiest ones, if you don't know that then I don't know what you are doing as one of the largest gaming companies in the world.


Outsourcing is the easiest way for a company to do nothing and achieve the desired result, outsourcing means spending more money while bearing less responsibilities, if they (as any other company) don't want to deal with the whole thing, it is safe to outsource but it is their job to ensure standards are met.

When you buy a computer that doesn't work properly you blame the brand not the factory, and when you see it was assembled/made in China you know why it works the way it does and then you realize that company loves to save money instead of delivering a good product.
The day you decide to buy a japanese Fender instead of a chinese one is the day you realize any Major hosted in China will worse than any other Major, as long as the choice to host it there is Valve's and the standards are not forced, it is Valve's fault.

This field of work is not based on promises and and friendship, at least not for such a large tournament. Valve is not allowed to wield the "they delivered something different than the contract we signed with them" argument.


They can blame whoever they want but it won't change shit. Chinese companies don't care about the English audience. They get no/little benefit from making sure it works for us, so they don't even try. The best choice is to not hold it in China, of course. But the next best choice is to just not use a Chinese company, and to run the whole English side from another country.

All these problems were avoided in a lot of earlier tournaments simply by not having the English people in China when the tournament is going on. THAT is the source of these problems.

how is this relevant when it's the entire production that's a mess? hugely delayed games. non-soundproof booths


I didn't say it's going to result in a perfect tournament. You put it in China, that's what you'll always get, but it won't have so many OTHER problems having to do with the English side specifically.
eX Killy
Profile Joined November 2012
Taiwan906 Posts
March 02 2016 09:11 GMT
#1710
dubu god
telling it like it is
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
March 02 2016 09:12 GMT
#1711
rip china oh well
secret - never again
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
March 02 2016 09:12 GMT
#1712
Why are all the chen players in pro games not able to chain centaur stomp correctly? :D
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
March 02 2016 09:12 GMT
#1713
Silly LGD, picking Razor when you haven't FATA on your team...
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1714
this is atrocious
Rillanon.au
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1715
What is going on
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1716
Losing creeps like that as Chen is the worst.
@Munck
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51472 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1717
Wow Chen creeps rip
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1718
Nice zoo.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1719
On March 02 2016 18:12 HammerKick wrote:
Why are all the chen players in pro games not able to chain centaur stomp correctly? :D


Very few Chinese players actually know how to play Chen. It's not "all Chen players."
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
March 02 2016 09:13 GMT
#1720
Always love seeing finger used on supports in the early game. Almost 1 shot.
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