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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
February 26 2016 06:15 GMT
#661
On February 26 2016 15:10 Daralii wrote:


feels good to be right.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 26 2016 06:16 GMT
#662
On February 26 2016 15:14 DavoS wrote:
Why isn't Sylla picked anymore? His nerfs were not nearly bad enough to warrant him falling out of the meta it just made his annoyance factor near rosh less severe


It'll be more popular as we get into the tournament. At the moment, it's either early push/aggression or harder Late-game setups. And expect EG to abuse that they can play it both Mid & Safe Lane.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
February 26 2016 06:16 GMT
#663
This is a straight up Alliance draft out of Spirit.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
February 26 2016 06:17 GMT
#664
On February 26 2016 15:13 molecu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 15:06 Azarkon wrote:
On February 26 2016 15:00 molecu wrote:
You guys might be onto something. This is hearsay, but don't Chinese pros don't play in pubs and play primarily in CDEC In-house?

Look at MVP they play in China pubs when Chinese teams don't wanna scrim them. Western players spam pubs.


Look at this: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/101450083/activity

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/93119769/activity

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/88933594/activity

And then this: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/101695162/activity

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/113800818/activity

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/90882159/activity

The difference is pretty obvious.



holy fuck china dissing pubs
I hope you don't think they only have played 2k pub games.
LiangHao
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 26 2016 06:17 GMT
#665
On February 26 2016 15:07 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 15:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 26 2016 14:59 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 14:57 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 26 2016 14:56 Dracolich70 wrote:
Well, PPD himself uses the tournament to figure out what to draft.

yea and from the vg interview it seems like fy wants to try the same this tourney
Think only few have a firm grasp over what will work at this level and what suits their style other than [A] and perhaps a few others. There have not been a whole lot of high level tournaments as of late to test it.

Having a firm grasp is meaningless anyway. These kind of tournaments have their own meta develop, and rightly so.
The sooner you find what suits you the better, and the more strings you have to play on, the less likely are you to be cornered.

Meta is only meaningful, if you are ahead of it.

EG's a team that studies the meta and beats it. VG (post TI4 VG) does that as well, to a less degree.

Teams like Secret, CDEC, OG and Alliance are ones that set the meta and ride it as far as they can.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
February 26 2016 06:18 GMT
#666
spirit is doing the same shit they were trying to do in game 3 vs [A]
-Terran-
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 26 2016 06:18 GMT
#667
Team Spirit thinks they're Alliance.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
February 26 2016 06:19 GMT
#668
"If we cant beat alliance, we will be alliance" - team spirit 2016
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
February 26 2016 06:22 GMT
#669
why are there no admins next to the players.
holy shit perfect world-
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
February 26 2016 06:23 GMT
#670
spirit go go go
6nnn
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 06:25:27
February 26 2016 06:24 GMT
#671
On February 26 2016 15:17 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 15:07 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 15:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 26 2016 14:59 Dracolich70 wrote:
On February 26 2016 14:57 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 26 2016 14:56 Dracolich70 wrote:
Well, PPD himself uses the tournament to figure out what to draft.

yea and from the vg interview it seems like fy wants to try the same this tourney
Think only few have a firm grasp over what will work at this level and what suits their style other than [A] and perhaps a few others. There have not been a whole lot of high level tournaments as of late to test it.

Having a firm grasp is meaningless anyway. These kind of tournaments have their own meta develop, and rightly so.
The sooner you find what suits you the better, and the more strings you have to play on, the less likely are you to be cornered.

Meta is only meaningful, if you are ahead of it.

EG's a team that studies the meta and beats it. VG (post TI4 VG) does that as well, to a less degree.

Teams like Secret, CDEC, OG and Alliance are ones that set the meta and ride it as far as they can.
Yes, EG studies what others develop, and tries to counter it. Meanwhile EG struggles their way through.

When you lose, you are likely to change things up, while winning you are not. That is one of the problems with the comeback mechanics of the formats, where winners are often punished in the end. Last time it was OG, that went all the way through lower. And in MDL it was EG that avenged a 2-0 loss to OG.
LiangHao
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
February 26 2016 06:24 GMT
#672
On February 26 2016 15:22 hfglgg wrote:
why are there no admins next to the players.
holy shit perfect world-

Weren't there also complaints about this at MDL?
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
February 26 2016 06:25 GMT
#673
On February 26 2016 15:24 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 15:22 hfglgg wrote:
why are there no admins next to the players.
holy shit perfect world-

Weren't there also complaints about this at MDL?


no idea.
but how the most obvious things that are also done not only in the entire scene but in the entire world for everything similar are so easily not taken care of still baffles me.

still better than dac though.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
February 26 2016 06:26 GMT
#674
why the stream so laggy
6nnn
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 26 2016 06:27 GMT
#675
Yames going in!
LiquidDota Staff
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
February 26 2016 06:28 GMT
#676
James it stopped being normal to flame EE for no reason around the time aui got booted from c9
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
February 26 2016 06:29 GMT
#677
Why is Yames rekting EE?
it all matters
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
February 26 2016 06:29 GMT
#678
What is happening in the game?
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
February 26 2016 06:29 GMT
#679
there was a dract a few min ago. i am sick of everything that is not the game
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 26 2016 06:31 GMT
#680
GodZ does have a point about QPAD Red Pandas
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