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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On January 27 2016 01:07 Dracolich70 wrote: Totally uneven groups. I wonder if they do seedings at all. Secret yet again in the easiest group. Best Chinese team, best CIS team, Best Western EU team, and Best American team in the same group. ehome and lgd have both been better than vg | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On January 27 2016 02:04 Elyvilon wrote: ehome and lgd have both been better than vg While we haven't seen much of either VG or Ehome in 6.86, the Chinese scene is currently: Ehome > VG > LGD > Newbee. CDEC & CDEC.Youth are somewhere in the region of LGD to Newbee, but we've not seen a lot of CDEC either. LGD did well in the group stage at Starladder, but a lot of that comes down to a very obvious lack of people preparing for them. (And EG screwing up a rosh fight badly.) LGD is a tier 1 team, but they aren't a Tournament Winning contender here. Not unless rOtk has a few new strategies worked out. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On January 27 2016 01:07 Dracolich70 wrote: Totally uneven groups. I wonder if they do seedings at all. Secret yet again in the easiest group. Best Chinese team, best CIS team, Best Western EU team, and Best American team in the same group. Lol, best Western EU team, heard about a former TI champion who just won 2 lans in a row? VG is clearly not the best Chinese team atm and Tspirit is just the usual goblak's stack, so far from being the best CIS team. But at least you spotted the correct American best team. | ||
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
On January 27 2016 04:36 Taf the Ghost wrote: While we haven't seen much of either VG or Ehome in 6.86, the Chinese scene is currently: Ehome > VG > LGD > Newbee. CDEC & CDEC.Youth are somewhere in the region of LGD to Newbee, but we've not seen a lot of CDEC either. So Newbee, beating VG 2-1, who beat LGD 2-1, is the worst of the 3? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Shanghai_Dota_2_Open | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
We are also seeing outdated playstyles from TI3 and before becoming more viable again, so Chinese teams might have a resurgence. | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On January 27 2016 07:35 wims80 wrote: Can somebody fill me in on why Alliance isn't playing in this tournament? Did they fail to qualify? It wasn't possible for them to. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/MarsTV_Dota_2_League/2015/Winter/European_Qualifiers Which was held while Alliance was at WCA. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/World_Cyber_Arena/2015 Final invites weren't confirmed until fairly recently, but they were probably accepted a while ago. So Alliance wasn't back, yet, by that point. Or they could have turned it down. They'd only been to China the month before. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On January 27 2016 06:52 babysimba wrote: I don't believe Newbee is that weak with the quality of players they have. Having Chuan might be a motivating factor to play less RPGs too. =/ We are also seeing outdated playstyles from TI3 and before becoming more viable again, so Chinese teams might have a resurgence. Out of all the ti's Chinese teams had worst performance at ti3. Idk about resurgance due to old playstyles. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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babysimba
10466 Posts
On January 27 2016 09:29 Kamisamanachi wrote: Out of all the ti's Chinese teams had worst performance at ti3. Idk about resurgance due to old playstyles. The 2 western teams that are above the Chinese were Navi and Alliance... Then you think about their playstyles. I believe with the offlane getting harder and mid stacks getting nerfed, we will see more 4p1 hard carry lineups with 4 space creators (traditional chinese / Navi), or dual core with offlane as carry and mid as tempo controller (Alliance). Alternatively, we might see more farm trickle down to pos 4 to compensate having more tempo cores (Liquid / old C9). Teams need someone other than the supports to set the early game tempo but offlane seems to be getting shut down way too hard sometimes. The modern mid carry still work as long as it's a hero that doesn't rely on stacks that badly (dp, razor, invoker, etc). But then supports might have to choose whether to protect their mid or offlaner more. I'm pretty happy supports have more decision making to do this meta though instead of just clustering around mid to protect runes and stacking mid jungles. Making every teams' playstyle viable is the best thing for us spectators. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
group A looks ultra stacked to me. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On January 27 2016 12:40 OuchyDathurts wrote: Wait, is that right? It's not being streamed on twitch? the qualifiers were streamed on everyone's favorite streaming service, http://www.abuzu.com/ | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On January 27 2016 12:44 Elyvilon wrote: the qualifiers were streamed on everyone's favorite streaming service, http://www.abuzu.com/ That would probably explain why I was unaware there was even a qualifier. I'm a stubborn old man, why do I have to do to a different site...grumble grumble. | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On January 27 2016 12:47 OuchyDathurts wrote: That would probably explain why I was unaware there was even a qualifier. I'm a stubborn old man, why do I have to do to a different site...grumble grumble. sidebar! | ||
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