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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 10 2015 08:41 GMT
#621
On December 10 2015 16:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 13:35 syw651 wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:32 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:29 Daralii wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:28 uriel- wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility.
Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time.

Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks.


Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing.

Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts.

The past 3 months had Super captaining. They only just gave it back to Fy.

why would they remove Fy from captain again ?

I don't know the real reason, but I felt like it was because fy couldn't captain and play at his usual level at the same time. It wouldn't be so bad if he played at 80% all the time, but it felt more like he was playing at 100% some games and 50% in others which was a serious liability.


pretty sure it's super captain
fy drafter

edit: is it? or is fy both captain and drafter?


from memory, fy posted on weibo just before their flight back to china after frankfurt saying he;s back to being captain and drafter
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 08:48:48
December 10 2015 08:48 GMT
#622
On December 10 2015 16:15 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.

Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.


i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...

[image loading]

how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?

OG were ahead for exactly 2 minutes that entire game
also reminder that carry Venge's issue isn't her ability to scale, it's that she sucks at farming, which isn't a problem when you have a BH on your team and you're constantly getting kills

also VG were really good about killing Rubick at the start of every fight and getting full duration Fiend's Grip on SF/PL

Venge can scale in late game ?
I know her stat growth is great
but none of her skill set is late game-ish ?
and isnt she's supposed to be so soft

anyway grabbing fiends grip 8/10 on a PL is Godlike job I have to say
-Terran-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 10 2015 09:05 GMT
#623
On December 10 2015 17:48 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 16:15 Verniy wrote:
On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.

Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.


i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...

[image loading]

how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?

OG were ahead for exactly 2 minutes that entire game
also reminder that carry Venge's issue isn't her ability to scale, it's that she sucks at farming, which isn't a problem when you have a BH on your team and you're constantly getting kills

also VG were really good about killing Rubick at the start of every fight and getting full duration Fiend's Grip on SF/PL

Venge can scale in late game ?
I know her stat growth is great
but none of her skill set is late game-ish ?
and isnt she's supposed to be so soft

anyway grabbing fiends grip 8/10 on a PL is Godlike job I have to say

Swap and her aura are both very good lategame
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 10 2015 09:06 GMT
#624
Wow Vici nice results. Beating OG IO Tony is pretty impressive.
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
December 10 2015 09:28 GMT
#625
On December 10 2015 18:05 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 17:48 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 16:15 Verniy wrote:
On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.

Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.


i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...

[image loading]

how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?

OG were ahead for exactly 2 minutes that entire game
also reminder that carry Venge's issue isn't her ability to scale, it's that she sucks at farming, which isn't a problem when you have a BH on your team and you're constantly getting kills

also VG were really good about killing Rubick at the start of every fight and getting full duration Fiend's Grip on SF/PL

Venge can scale in late game ?
I know her stat growth is great
but none of her skill set is late game-ish ?
and isnt she's supposed to be so soft

anyway grabbing fiends grip 8/10 on a PL is Godlike job I have to say

Swap and her aura are both very good lategame


yes, but it's a support stuff, no ?
-Terran-
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
December 10 2015 10:22 GMT
#626
On December 10 2015 16:13 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.

Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.


i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...

[image loading]

a lot of kills and a lot of farm


my point was not that....the thing that u said is often not done with vengeful spirit..when her idea as a carry came into existence ,she was like played as a role between offlane and semi carry ..but burning took it too the am level carry
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Dekalinder
Profile Joined December 2012
Italy169 Posts
December 10 2015 11:23 GMT
#627
On December 10 2015 17:48 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 16:15 Verniy wrote:
On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.

Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.


i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...

[image loading]

how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?

OG were ahead for exactly 2 minutes that entire game
also reminder that carry Venge's issue isn't her ability to scale, it's that she sucks at farming, which isn't a problem when you have a BH on your team and you're constantly getting kills

also VG were really good about killing Rubick at the start of every fight and getting full duration Fiend's Grip on SF/PL

Venge can scale in late game ?
I know her stat growth is great
but none of her skill set is late game-ish ?
and isnt she's supposed to be so soft


Both the aura and the minus armor are % type modifyers so they actually scale better lategame, and swap is always good no matter what. The only reason you don't often see VS carry is the fact that all three of this ability are actual "team wide" so other carry in your team would benefit even if VS itself is a support.
The only drawback for VS lategame is her lack of AOE clear for flashfarming, compared to razes, glaives, calldown/flack ecc.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 11:55:06
December 10 2015 11:54 GMT
#628
On December 10 2015 18:28 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 18:05 Nevuk wrote:
On December 10 2015 17:48 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 16:15 Verniy wrote:
On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:
On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.

Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.


i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...

[image loading]

how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?

OG were ahead for exactly 2 minutes that entire game
also reminder that carry Venge's issue isn't her ability to scale, it's that she sucks at farming, which isn't a problem when you have a BH on your team and you're constantly getting kills

also VG were really good about killing Rubick at the start of every fight and getting full duration Fiend's Grip on SF/PL

Venge can scale in late game ?
I know her stat growth is great
but none of her skill set is late game-ish ?
and isnt she's supposed to be so soft

anyway grabbing fiends grip 8/10 on a PL is Godlike job I have to say

Swap and her aura are both very good lategame


yes, but it's a support stuff, no ?

It's not exclusively carry, but Venge definitely uses her own aura and -armor just fine. I would not risk running that without BH though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
December 10 2015 12:54 GMT
#629
Summit 4 had a $500 dollar jump when the even started

daed tournament
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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