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On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility. Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time. Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks.
Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing.
Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts.
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On December 10 2015 13:28 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility. Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time. Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks. Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing. Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts.
The past 3 months had Super captaining. They only just gave it back to Fy.
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On December 10 2015 13:23 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:20 syw651 wrote:
It's good to see VG winning through their draft, opposed to despite their drafts. Still have to see how their drafting holds up against EG or Secret though. yeah yeah sure everytime a western team lost to china always come "how will they do against EG and secret" its like "bohooo west team lost, im going to tell my daddy team secret best doto ever"
If you look at my flair, clearly I'm not pro-western teams vs the east in general. What I mean by my previous statement is that VG seem to have been playing a bit below expectations lately and my personal opinion is that it is due to their drafting. In many games against teams they are favoured against, they lost because of their drafts and even in some games were they won they seem to have won despite them because they were a better team mechanically. So I'm just glad to see the team I support making progress in an area that hadn't been their strongest previously and I hope they continue this trend.
I mention Secret and EG because they have captain that are well known for their drafting ability, but if xiao8 was active atm I would have mentioned his team too.
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On December 10 2015 13:29 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:28 uriel- wrote:On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility. Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time. Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks. Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing. Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts. The past 3 months had Super captaining. They only just gave it back to Fy.
why would they remove Fy from captain again ?
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YES!
1-Fuck huskar-dazzle
2-OG dont seem hot at all after the major
3-I'd love if vici and some other team figure out new things of this patch just before the new one hits and we will be like "DAMN there was more things to be discovered".
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On December 10 2015 13:32 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:29 Daralii wrote:On December 10 2015 13:28 uriel- wrote:On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility. Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time. Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks. Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing. Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts. The past 3 months had Super captaining. They only just gave it back to Fy. why would they remove Fy from captain again ?
I don't know the real reason, but I felt like it was because fy couldn't captain and play at his usual level at the same time. It wouldn't be so bad if he played at 80% all the time, but it felt more like he was playing at 100% some games and 50% in others which was a serious liability.
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On December 10 2015 13:30 syw651 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:23 Vertical wrote:On December 10 2015 13:20 syw651 wrote:
It's good to see VG winning through their draft, opposed to despite their drafts. Still have to see how their drafting holds up against EG or Secret though. yeah yeah sure everytime a western team lost to china always come "how will they do against EG and secret" its like "bohooo west team lost, im going to tell my daddy team secret best doto ever" I mention Secret and EG because they have captain that are well known for their drafting ability, but if xiao8 was active atm I would have mentioned his team too.
I would argue that lanm is a better drafter than xiao8
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On December 10 2015 13:35 DV G wrote:
YES!
1-Fuck huskar-dazzle
2-OG dont seem hot at all after the major
3-I'd love if vici and some other team figure out new things of this patch just before the new one hits and we will be like "DAMN there was more things to be discovered".
but huskar dazzle won their game
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On December 10 2015 13:36 Ultimo Hombre wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:30 syw651 wrote:On December 10 2015 13:23 Vertical wrote:On December 10 2015 13:20 syw651 wrote:
It's good to see VG winning through their draft, opposed to despite their drafts. Still have to see how their drafting holds up against EG or Secret though. yeah yeah sure everytime a western team lost to china always come "how will they do against EG and secret" its like "bohooo west team lost, im going to tell my daddy team secret best doto ever" I mention Secret and EG because they have captain that are well known for their drafting ability, but if xiao8 was active atm I would have mentioned his team too. I would argue that lanm is a better drafter than xiao8
Fair enough. I would like to see them put up strong drafts against Ehome as well. There's the added benefit of Ehome actually being in this tournament, so it could happen soon.
Edit: I should clarify I mean in this tournament opposed to Secret. I am aware of who that voice smack talking DC belongs to and which team he plays on.
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This iteration of VG with fy captain seems like focussing on squeezing as much of out of BurNing as possible making use of his versatileness..
and not surprised to see him play ember and venge pretty good after seeing him play those 2 in CDEC inhouse leagues...i ,like watch his games regularly and never saw him playing am there...it's always ember or venge or PL(though he lost 2 out of 4 games on this hero)
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Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.
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On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment.
i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/a8pIItK.png)
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On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment. i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...
The amazing thing for me that game was how he did it with a Lina and a tusk as his other two cores. Normally, when VP run VS as their safelane farmer she has more right-click orientated cores in pos 2/3 and ends up feeling more like a safelane QoP than a safelane AM.
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On December 10 2015 13:32 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:29 Daralii wrote:On December 10 2015 13:28 uriel- wrote:On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility. Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time. Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks. Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing. Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts. The past 3 months had Super captaining. They only just gave it back to Fy. why would they remove Fy from captain again ?
It was initially because Hao's an idiot. Not sure about after that.
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On December 10 2015 13:16 Vertical wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA 4 STR monsters !!!
so long overhyped gay boys
Wow too far, buddy
don't be "that guy"
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On December 10 2015 13:35 syw651 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:32 Vertical wrote:On December 10 2015 13:29 Daralii wrote:On December 10 2015 13:28 uriel- wrote:On December 10 2015 13:25 Dracolich70 wrote:On December 10 2015 13:23 Acritter wrote:
Very nicely done by Vici. I'm sure that someone will cite an earlier instance of them playing WK, but it almost seems like they picked the idea up from their loss to VP earlier. If they did get the idea from that, then it's a prime example of flexibility. Vici can play pretty much anything, so it is not out of the question they learn a lot of strategies from studying EU, that plays all the time. Silencer, WK, Disruptor, etc are proofs of studying opponents and their picks. Thing is the past 3 months have been them trying all these things and mostly failing. Just really happy that they are finally getting some solid wins against good teams, using a variety of drafts. The past 3 months had Super captaining. They only just gave it back to Fy. why would they remove Fy from captain again ? I don't know the real reason, but I felt like it was because fy couldn't captain and play at his usual level at the same time. It wouldn't be so bad if he played at 80% all the time, but it felt more like he was playing at 100% some games and 50% in others which was a serious liability.
pretty sure it's super captain
fy drafter
edit: is it? or is fy both captain and drafter?
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On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment. i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...
how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?
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On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment. i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge...
a lot of kills and a lot of farm
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On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment. i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge... how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?
they shouldn't but VG's bane was literally being the bane of PL (dude just did a superb job with hitting grip)
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On December 10 2015 16:06 Vertical wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 14:05 Kamisamanachi wrote:On December 10 2015 13:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a fucking minute, Burning wrecking shit on carry Venge.
Damn, my netbook died in worst possible moment. i am still baffled by how the fucking fuck burning managed to get 643 gpm and 27k networth on venge... how can core venge, lina, tusk beat core nevermore, PL, tiny in a 50 min game ?
OG were ahead for exactly 2 minutes that entire game
also reminder that carry Venge's issue isn't her ability to scale, it's that she sucks at farming, which isn't a problem when you have a BH on your team and you're constantly getting kills
also VG were really good about killing Rubick at the start of every fight and getting full duration Fiend's Grip on SF/PL
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