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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 26 2015 15:25 GMT
#1241
On October 27 2015 00:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This really hasn't been DC's tournament.

has any tournament been DC's tournament
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 26 2015 15:26 GMT
#1242
well that's day 1
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 26 2015 15:32 GMT
#1243
so... mineski must either 2-0 VG or if they 1-1 CDEC must lose all their matches against liquid and VP, inducing a tiebreaker
DC must win 2-0 against fnatic or they are out and if they do fnatic are eliminated

correct?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 26 2015 15:32 GMT
#1244
I'm not sure about the Meepo thing, the hero looked largely countered but at the same time the team wasn't doing so well. For example Misery and PLD were close to getting early kills top lane, instead barely gave away first blood (and further kills later?). Misery's game went pretty quick down the toilet. It's really easy for Fnatic to teamfight when almost all they have to do is to just concentrate on the Meepo. If Secret did even slightly better in lane Misery can be an annoying guy in front with EE throwing shackles and then w33 can better choose his time to jump. Now Fnatic managed to prevent Secret from snowballing completely and then it's really hard for Secret to really accomplish much, their teamfight is mediocre and they can't really splitpush against the Invoker running around either.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
October 26 2015 15:33 GMT
#1245
Any place to watch the Vods that is not the twitch stream?

A random youtube guy uploading them? or something like that?

I mean I know BTS will upload them eventually but I couldnt even watch 1 game given their schedule lol
Go pro or die trying
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12005 Posts
October 26 2015 15:36 GMT
#1246
On October 27 2015 00:33 DV G wrote:
Any place to watch the Vods that is not the twitch stream?

A random youtube guy uploading them? or something like that?

I mean I know BTS will upload them eventually but I couldnt even watch 1 game given their schedule lol

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vQmbHIu4Ksd4U0EIAVbrg/videos
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 15:37:32
October 26 2015 15:36 GMT
#1247
On October 27 2015 00:32 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not sure about the Meepo thing, the hero looked largely countered but at the same time the team wasn't doing so well. For example Misery and PLD were close to getting early kills top lane, instead barely gave away first blood (and further kills later?). Misery's game went pretty quick down the toilet. It's really easy for Fnatic to teamfight when almost all they have to do is to just concentrate on the Meepo. If Secret did even slightly better in lane Misery can be an annoying guy in front with EE throwing shackles and then w33 can better choose his time to jump. Now Fnatic managed to prevent Secret from snowballing completely and then it's really hard for Secret to really accomplish much, their teamfight is mediocre and they can't really splitpush against the Invoker running around either.


game always feels super hard for secret whenever misery gets off to a bad start, it seems like they have trouble finding a way for him to recover

but strategically it felt like they were just outpicked that game as well, couldn't 5v5 and had inferior split push/pick potential as well
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
October 26 2015 15:38 GMT
#1248
On October 27 2015 00:32 rabidch wrote:
so... mineski must either 2-0 VG or if they 1-1 CDEC must lose all their matches against liquid and VP, inducing a tiebreaker
DC must win 2-0 against fnatic or they are out and if they do fnatic are eliminated

correct?


Yeah if Fnatic takes 1 game then DC is out.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 15:52:05
October 26 2015 15:50 GMT
#1249
On October 27 2015 00:36 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:32 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not sure about the Meepo thing, the hero looked largely countered but at the same time the team wasn't doing so well. For example Misery and PLD were close to getting early kills top lane, instead barely gave away first blood (and further kills later?). Misery's game went pretty quick down the toilet. It's really easy for Fnatic to teamfight when almost all they have to do is to just concentrate on the Meepo. If Secret did even slightly better in lane Misery can be an annoying guy in front with EE throwing shackles and then w33 can better choose his time to jump. Now Fnatic managed to prevent Secret from snowballing completely and then it's really hard for Secret to really accomplish much, their teamfight is mediocre and they can't really splitpush against the Invoker running around either.


game always feels super hard for secret whenever misery gets off to a bad start, it seems like they have trouble finding a way for him to recover

but strategically it felt like they were just outpicked that game as well, couldn't 5v5 and had inferior split push/pick potential as well


When Meepo is "countered" in fights you need someone else to take attention away from him and actually be a threat to create room for the Meepo to do something, but unfortunately for Secret they didn't really do well in that dual offlane. Also their safelane wasn't really crushing either as far as I recall, they did fine but they can't really prevent Fnatic from getting xp and farm as well. WR is also not really a hero that you can somehow create massive amount of space with, they even hit a few nice shackles to win some fights but then the game stabilizes after that smoke again and Fnatic has really no pressure on them. I agree the draft was an issue at least the way the game went, I was mostly wondering whether the lane needed to go that way. Secret has a very strong lineup for early skirmishing too if they do even a bit better, and if the Meepo gets ahead I don't know if it even matters that he is "countered", but he never really got going. But obviously it's not really ideal anyway if you are overly reliant on lanes and your lanes aren't even really that dominant.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 15:55:25
October 26 2015 15:51 GMT
#1250
On October 27 2015 00:36 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:33 DV G wrote:
Any place to watch the Vods that is not the twitch stream?

A random youtube guy uploading them? or something like that?

I mean I know BTS will upload them eventually but I couldnt even watch 1 game given their schedule lol

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vQmbHIu4Ksd4U0EIAVbrg/videos


You Da MVP!


ANY MODERATOR PLEASE DELETE THIS POSTS ROFL, Sorry i misscliked and this carried on like new posts
Go pro or die trying
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 15:54:10
October 26 2015 15:53 GMT
#1251
double post
Go pro or die trying
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
October 26 2015 15:53 GMT
#1252
Double post.
Go pro or die trying
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 15:55:32
October 26 2015 15:54 GMT
#1253
Two Western teams on top of Group A, both off of wins against Mineski, haha.

Secret on top of Group B, tied with Ehome and LGD.

DC is the only team that's failed from the West up to now.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 15:54:57
October 26 2015 15:54 GMT
#1254
-.
Go pro or die trying
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
October 26 2015 16:03 GMT
#1255
On October 27 2015 00:54 DV G wrote:
-.


That quadruple posts. Were you on mobile? I have that problem on my iphone.
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
October 26 2015 16:11 GMT
#1256
Fnatic really have a special edge on Secret and have had that for a while now. Feels like they always play 1-1 when they meet in group stages even though Fnatic's performance is often far below Secret against all other teams.
@Munck
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 26 2015 16:35 GMT
#1257
Day 1 DC boys
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 26 2015 16:39 GMT
#1258
Man I'm sad that I missed day 1. It sounds like it was hilarious. I need to find some time to watch the rest of this. Sounds like its gonna be a circus.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
October 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#1259
On October 27 2015 00:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This really hasn't been DC's tournament.


They weren't even supposed to be there. Good enough for second stringers.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
October 26 2015 16:58 GMT
#1260
On October 27 2015 01:11 mnck wrote:
Fnatic really have a special edge on Secret and have had that for a while now. Feels like they always play 1-1 when they meet in group stages even though Fnatic's performance is often far below Secret against all other teams.


I might be wrong but isn't Fnatic's only international tournament that 2-1 loss to Secret in New York? I don't think they've actually played any other matches with the current squad to my knowledge.
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