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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
eX Killy
Profile Joined November 2012
Taiwan906 Posts
August 09 2015 01:46 GMT
#5741
alright those are sick neutral blocks ROFL
telling it like it is
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
August 09 2015 01:46 GMT
#5742
On August 09 2015 10:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:37 lolnoty wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:34 babysimba wrote:

I don't think it's interesting at all. Remeber DAC when Sumail was fucking styling on China? Charlie hotbid etc were in the crowd and said it was pindrop when EG was tapdancing on them and China was cheering for ancient farming and de-wards by China.


Yep, all countries have nationalist pride. Don't really know why this needs to be discussed.


This crowd is great but in general I find that there are huge differences when it comes to nationalism. Watch a fighting game tournament- everyone cheers for the player they like, but when it's an American suddenly it's "USA" no idea how that makes sense but there it is. I just mute the stream until they shut up.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
August 09 2015 01:47 GMT
#5743
On August 09 2015 10:44 shad2810 wrote:
Can we have some nahaz stats here?

EG has a 50% chance to win the game
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 09 2015 01:47 GMT
#5744
at least aui camped cty, shiki loses by a mile every time while receiving help..
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 09 2015 01:47 GMT
#5745
Never seen that obs from Universe

Literally saving wards for TI5 finals
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 09 2015 01:47 GMT
#5746
I seriously don't get the DK pick
The Real Power~
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 09 2015 01:47 GMT
#5747
On August 09 2015 10:46 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:45 MoonBear wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:44 shad2810 wrote:
Can we have some nahaz stats here?

Getting 30 cs is better than only getting 29 cs

what if some of the 30 cs are jungle creeps but the 29 cs are all lane creeps


Nahaz stats dont take that into account
Moderator
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 01:48:09
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5748
If there has been one trend throughout the finals is that Sumail is far better than Shiki even after getting ganked and killed several times.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5749
On August 09 2015 10:46 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:45 MoonBear wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:44 shad2810 wrote:
Can we have some nahaz stats here?

Getting 30 cs is better than only getting 29 cs

report LL staff for memeing honestly

can we report them for not getting me a bunnygirl riven avatar on their site cause i feel like i really deserve it just to make me seem more important.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5750
On August 09 2015 10:46 nothingmuch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:37 lolnoty wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:34 babysimba wrote:
https://twitter.com/Eleine_Sun/status/630166027565858816

I don't think it's interesting at all. Remeber DAC when Sumail was fucking styling on China? Charlie hotbid etc were in the crowd and said it was pindrop when EG was tapdancing on them and China was cheering for ancient farming and de-wards by China.


Yep, all countries have nationalist pride. Don't really know why this needs to be discussed.


This crowd is great but in general I find that there are huge differences when it comes to nationalism. Watch a fighting game tournament- everyone cheers for the player they like, but when it's an American suddenly it's "USA" no idea how that makes sense but there it is. I just mute the stream until they shut up.

You haven't seen when FGC tournaments chant USA.

FGC crowds also boo players.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5751
On August 09 2015 10:47 IshinShishi wrote:
at least aui camped cty, shiki loses by a mile every time while receiving help..


Looks to me skill is still important in Dota.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5752
On August 09 2015 10:46 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:45 MoonBear wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:44 shad2810 wrote:
Can we have some nahaz stats here?

Getting 30 cs is better than only getting 29 cs

what if some of the 30 cs are jungle creeps but the 29 cs are all lane creeps

Doesn't that make the stat even more nahazier?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5753
On August 09 2015 10:47 Zea! wrote:
I seriously don't get the DK pick

I'm going to guess easy point and click CC to hit the Storm with but someone correct me if this is wrong
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5754
On August 09 2015 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:46 nothingmuch wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:37 lolnoty wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:34 babysimba wrote:
https://twitter.com/Eleine_Sun/status/630166027565858816

I don't think it's interesting at all. Remeber DAC when Sumail was fucking styling on China? Charlie hotbid etc were in the crowd and said it was pindrop when EG was tapdancing on them and China was cheering for ancient farming and de-wards by China.


Yep, all countries have nationalist pride. Don't really know why this needs to be discussed.


This crowd is great but in general I find that there are huge differences when it comes to nationalism. Watch a fighting game tournament- everyone cheers for the player they like, but when it's an American suddenly it's "USA" no idea how that makes sense but there it is. I just mute the stream until they shut up.

You haven't seen when FGC tournaments chant USA.

FGC crowds also boo players.

FGC crowds are so next level
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5755
On August 09 2015 10:46 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:45 MoonBear wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:44 shad2810 wrote:
Can we have some nahaz stats here?

Getting 30 cs is better than only getting 29 cs

what if some of the 30 cs are jungle creeps but the 29 cs are all lane creeps

Doesn't matter. Still superior last hit number.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 01:49:20
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5756
On August 09 2015 10:47 nooboon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:44 shad2810 wrote:
Can we have some nahaz stats here?

EG has a 50% chance to win the game

nonono,

eg are historically 2-1 in grand finals games against cdec, so they have a 66% chance to win
posting on liquid sites in current year
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
August 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#5757
I keep falling asleep during the draft and already missed game 2&3 because of that. Stupid timezones - cant wait for european major

Go game 5 please!
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 09 2015 01:49 GMT
#5758
On August 09 2015 10:48 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:46 nothingmuch wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:37 lolnoty wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:34 babysimba wrote:
https://twitter.com/Eleine_Sun/status/630166027565858816

I don't think it's interesting at all. Remeber DAC when Sumail was fucking styling on China? Charlie hotbid etc were in the crowd and said it was pindrop when EG was tapdancing on them and China was cheering for ancient farming and de-wards by China.


Yep, all countries have nationalist pride. Don't really know why this needs to be discussed.


This crowd is great but in general I find that there are huge differences when it comes to nationalism. Watch a fighting game tournament- everyone cheers for the player they like, but when it's an American suddenly it's "USA" no idea how that makes sense but there it is. I just mute the stream until they shut up.

You haven't seen when FGC tournaments chant USA.

FGC crowds also boo players.

FGC crowds are so next level

I wouldn't even really call FGC crowds "crowds", more like a party that came along to watch some people play FGC competitively.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 09 2015 01:49 GMT
#5759
On August 09 2015 10:45 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:43 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:41 TheYango wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:40 dutchfriese wrote:
They had adequate lock down for ES and couldn't kill them because slark's dps was too low. It's as simple as that.

Except the only reason they had to expose the Ember is because Slark can cut backline heroes anyway. When you replace it with a Sven, EG's entire engagement pattern changes and they never put Ember in a place to get engaged on.


Slark was always going on ES + Gyro, so no that wasn't the case at all.

Right, that's the point though. When you have Slark everyone else has to play super tight and you can only take defensive fights exposing a core as bait because if you spread out your engagement, Slark can cut backline heroes once they get vision of your team.

If they have a Sven, Sven doesnt have the mobility to cut backline heroes, so that frees up EG to go for more proactive engagements such as using the Clock to do something other than blocking Lesh out of fights, and not having to force baits.

It's not so straightforward as to say "if they have Sven instead of Slark they get a kill in this kind of engagement" because the entire way EG uses their team to approach fights changes when it's Sven instead of Slark.


The entire complexity of the game would have changed if slark wasn't in it, no shit. It doesn't change the fact slark's physical dps is mediocre unless he's snowballing completely out of control which is a tall order vs a team of EG's caliber.

Idk about you, but I'd rather have the reliable heavy hitters vs ember spirit.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 01:50:04
August 09 2015 01:49 GMT
#5760
On August 09 2015 10:48 PhoenixVoid wrote:
If there has been one trend throughout the finals is that Sumail is far better than Sumail even after getting ganked and killed several times.

what?

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