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On June 05 2015 22:10 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 22:09 zeru wrote:On June 05 2015 22:06 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 05 2015 22:00 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:55 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:53 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:49 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:46 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:44 beifru wrote:
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Its West -> China -> West -> China
Its only logical that the West takes TI this year kekeke
But yeah, the standard of Chinese dota really fell off since the Chinese New Year this year. after TI4 china was kinda like just VG alone (with newbee before DAC) after that it was always been VG vs the world Yeah, I think the roster shuffles worked out crap for China. LGD retained Yao, IG picked up Faith (lolwut LaNm was available), ROTK is back to destroy EHOME VG is like the only Chinese team that pretty much smashes the competition, but they kinda choke in the finals and suck at drafting. to be fair VG lineup is really really good right now .. i'd say it's as good as Secret/EG Actually, VG has the highest individual skill of any team in the world right now. They do lack a drafting mastermind (ala Puppey and PPD), which is really their only core weakness. If VG steps up on the drafting department, they are easy favourites for TI5. Well i think they are on par for sure but highest individual skill nah.. When Secret has zai/s4/rtz and eg has suma1l/universe you can't say that. Also Super can be lackluster. EG's individual skill is not on par with Secret/VG imo. PPD's pocket strats and outdrafts make up for that though. Secret and VG are pretty on par. But imo VG has the better offlaner, although Zai stepped up his game alot in the past month. Super while inconsistent, is like Mu where, if he is on form, he has the capacity to outskill s4. Mu will outskill s4 4/5 times when they play only mid..i have no doubt in that.. Nah. s4 is the 1v1 mid world champion. like that really counts for anything though
yeah especially since that was a mirrormatch
and think about this rtz and suma1l thinks s4 isn't the best and they would rekt him
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On June 05 2015 22:09 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 22:06 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 05 2015 22:00 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:55 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:53 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:49 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:46 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:44 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:41 Kamisamanachi wrote:
no way china wins TI this year with these yolo drafts and cocky plays...VG is only hope,it seems...LGD has huge problem with their players..sylar have same problem as BurNing since after TI4 ...it's just that xiao8 fits him and yao in his drafts perfectly while faith just copies other teams drafts..hope,these teams can prove me wrong. Its West -> China -> West -> China Its only logical that the West takes TI this year kekeke But yeah, the standard of Chinese dota really fell off since the Chinese New Year this year. after TI4 china was kinda like just VG alone (with newbee before DAC) after that it was always been VG vs the world Yeah, I think the roster shuffles worked out crap for China. LGD retained Yao, IG picked up Faith (lolwut LaNm was available), ROTK is back to destroy EHOME VG is like the only Chinese team that pretty much smashes the competition, but they kinda choke in the finals and suck at drafting. to be fair VG lineup is really really good right now .. i'd say it's as good as Secret/EG Actually, VG has the highest individual skill of any team in the world right now. They do lack a drafting mastermind (ala Puppey and PPD), which is really their only core weakness. If VG steps up on the drafting department, they are easy favourites for TI5. Well i think they are on par for sure but highest individual skill nah.. When Secret has zai/s4/rtz and eg has suma1l/universe you can't say that. Also Super can be lackluster. EG's individual skill is not on par with Secret/VG imo. PPD's pocket strats and outdrafts make up for that though. Secret and VG are pretty on par. But imo VG has the better offlaner, although Zai stepped up his game alot in the past month. Super while inconsistent, is like Mu where, if he is on form, he has the capacity to outskill s4. Mu will outskill s4 4/5 times when they play only mid..i have no doubt in that.. Nah. s4 is the 1v1 mid world champion.
Mu was too busy winning TI4.
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fy is the best everything in the game
pack it up
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On June 05 2015 22:11 beifru wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 22:09 zeru wrote:On June 05 2015 22:06 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 05 2015 22:00 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:55 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:53 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:49 beifru wrote:On June 05 2015 21:46 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:44 beifru wrote:
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Its West -> China -> West -> China
Its only logical that the West takes TI this year kekeke
But yeah, the standard of Chinese dota really fell off since the Chinese New Year this year. after TI4 china was kinda like just VG alone (with newbee before DAC) after that it was always been VG vs the world Yeah, I think the roster shuffles worked out crap for China. LGD retained Yao, IG picked up Faith (lolwut LaNm was available), ROTK is back to destroy EHOME VG is like the only Chinese team that pretty much smashes the competition, but they kinda choke in the finals and suck at drafting. to be fair VG lineup is really really good right now .. i'd say it's as good as Secret/EG Actually, VG has the highest individual skill of any team in the world right now. They do lack a drafting mastermind (ala Puppey and PPD), which is really their only core weakness. If VG steps up on the drafting department, they are easy favourites for TI5. Well i think they are on par for sure but highest individual skill nah.. When Secret has zai/s4/rtz and eg has suma1l/universe you can't say that. Also Super can be lackluster. EG's individual skill is not on par with Secret/VG imo. PPD's pocket strats and outdrafts make up for that though. Secret and VG are pretty on par. But imo VG has the better offlaner, although Zai stepped up his game alot in the past month. Super while inconsistent, is like Mu where, if he is on form, he has the capacity to outskill s4. Mu will outskill s4 4/5 times when they play only mid..i have no doubt in that.. Nah. s4 is the 1v1 mid world champion. Mu was too busy winning TI4.
Also if we are talking purely 1v1 I would put my money on Suma1l to win it all despite the fact that I don't think he's as good as either s4, rtz or Mu.
All that talk about potential is kind of stupid tho. A team is more than the sum of its talent and more than its captain abilities. On paper old EG with zai/rtz was probably the team with the highest potential and it didn't matter in the face of their internal problems.
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W/e c9 wins secret if they carry tps right lol
Doesn't matter what sumail thinks BTW only matters what PPD drafts. PPD is the beginning and end of that team the rest are just witnesses +4 to his glory.
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in the end,mushi will own them all..just saying..peace out..i sense many butthurts will come after what i said.
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On June 05 2015 22:21 Spicy_Curry wrote:
fy is the best everything in the game
pack it up
This guy knows what's up
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I'm a VG fan so I'm obviously biased but even if their recent performances have been shaky (especially drafts and just tilting in general in the finals) don't sleep on them come TI.
If they find their sweet spot with the draft and Super starts playing great (as much as we flame him, this guys steps it up at TI) they're gonna be trouble for everyone.
And in the end it's TI. Performances 3 months before it don't win you nothing there.
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On June 05 2015 21:59 Gevna wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 21:54 goody153 wrote:On June 05 2015 21:53 Nahsom wrote:On June 05 2015 21:52 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 05 2015 21:52 Gevna wrote:On June 05 2015 21:50 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 05 2015 21:49 Gevna wrote:
I hope chinese dota raises their level for TI5, otherwise it's going to be a disappointing / boring TI :-/ does everything have to be about east v west cant we just hope for good games and intersting games between the top teams, no matter where they're from? Which is exactly what east vs west brings in Dota ? it happens in west v west and east v east too idk where this is coming from Maybe ti4 finals? ti3 too .. i think Genva is just a chinese version of azarkon he just said west vs west is boring Haha, yes this is exactly what I am. I don't know why I reply to c9 fans but whatever. East vs west is the confrontation of 2 very different playstyles. The result of one year work that we had very few opportunities to watch against each other. I don't know, maybe watching what the collision between the best from different dota cultures, has to offer, is being an irrational chinese fanboy. Whatever.
There is no such thing as East and West playstyles. The regions are a lot more granular than that.
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i am hoping,IG and LGD will rise from ashes and will show strong doto at TI5 and esl one...
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On June 05 2015 22:27 Kamisamanachi wrote:
i am hoping,IG and LGD will rise from ashes and will show strong doto at TI5 and esl one...
Yeah I'm also excited about LGD performance at ESL... 
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On June 05 2015 21:57 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 21:55 weiliem wrote:On June 05 2015 21:51 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 05 2015 21:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 05 2015 21:43 shouldbeworking wrote:On June 05 2015 21:41 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
maybe bonedraft is the anti-tilt
he knows what to draft himself to carry the game I think the anti tilt was the garbage plays made by BurNings ember. Once EE starts laughing maniacally its over. i mean bad plays by burdening aside bone and misery played like gods like i imagine even if burning had played better that was by no means an easy game for ig, tusk/ns/qop/lion r so scary to fight into and how do u expect him to play on a hero which he literally played for like 2 or 3 times in his whole carrier? i think faith has been yoloing with any picks in his drafts,,why not give him a carry which he is comfortable with? Burning has proven time and time again in DK that he can play any carry. No team would want to run with Burning AM every game and where in the world i said burning can only play am? i ain't questioning B-god's versatility..he can play most of the carries at high level but he was very uncomfortable on ember and when there is a superior ember player on ur team ,burning's ember will always look weak.
I'm just giving an example =.= I'm just saying that burning has proven his versatility and there's no point sticking to only a few heroes with his versatility. You're right saying they could've handed ember to Ferrari while burning plays the sf though. But not putting Ferrari mid is always a waste 
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Also, tomorrow games has like a 5 hours stretch in between games, I wish they made it Bo5 
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Why are there no vods for this tourney? Chinese timezone + Norwegian timezone does not mix!
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what is this vg frozen sigil i can't seem to find it via google
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On June 05 2015 22:58 hariooo wrote:
what is this vg frozen sigil i can't seem to find it via google
Its from the tusk set in the Compendium Cache. The new chest that's only available to compendium owners?(That part may not be true, but ti does level up your compendium)
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United States47024 Posts
iG has really struggled on 6.84
LGD has looked better but seeing as they had like <1 week of practice after a 2 week hiatus going into this tournament, so I had zero expectations for them.
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Baa?21244 Posts
LGD pls stop struggling ;-;
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On June 05 2015 23:03 Ravensong170 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 22:58 hariooo wrote:
what is this vg frozen sigil i can't seem to find it via google Its from the tusk set in the Compendium Cache. The new chest that's only available to compendium owners?(That part may not be true, but ti does level up your compendium)
o weird i looked that set up on the steam community site but no mention of a custom for the third ability. weirdweird
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