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On January 29 2015 16:31 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully.
Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no.
Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this.
Edit: Apologies for my bitching.
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On January 29 2015 16:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:29 opterown wrote:On January 29 2015 16:28 the`postman wrote:On January 29 2015 16:26 opterown wrote:On January 29 2015 16:25 the`postman wrote:
if you're gonna play three games at a time you could at least stagger them so there's always something to watch. doesn't work like that in practice haha it's already too messy as is how would that make it worse than 45 minutes of downtime after each round. one game going longer and then having much more significant effects on scheduling (which is lessened by the same start time rather than staggered) I don't follow your logic. The same teams shouldn't be playing 2 games in a row, so no reason why a delay in one game would cause larger delays in another. This way they have people complaining about downtime for 45 minutes once every hour, because there's nothing to watch.
It's not only teams, you also have caster schedules, production crew schedules, etc. With proper planning it would probably be possible, but if your plan was to start the games at the same time, improvising to 'just play whenever you're ready' halfway through the day is probably not a good idea.
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HYPE!!!
everyone looks cheerful, zai looks dead
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On January 29 2015 16:27 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:26 mutantmagnet wrote:On January 29 2015 16:14 DucK- wrote:On January 29 2015 16:09 Sabu113 wrote:On January 29 2015 15:55 DucK- wrote:On January 29 2015 15:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Actually, at this point i think GK is right, venge is fucking terrible. Heh I agreed with him, though not as extreme. Swap is the only good skill she has, and it's the only reason to pick her. Feels like a week ago she was the tier 1 support with a good stun, armor reduction for rosh, swap and that dont you dare kill me aura. Her stun is actually quite bad and the -armour and aura is kinda overrated. Swap is the only reason she should be picked, which means she doesn't deserve the first pick she is often getting. The aura isn't overrated. It's pretty much what carries her into having a 14% better winrate than the other supports not named AA. It is though. And how exactly it does? Her aura barely affects anything other ganks and roshan, in actual teamfight it has low impact until ultra late if your team does not consist of morph/TB/drow/tony.
Clearly because her passive only increases allied damage.
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On January 29 2015 16:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:31 Jaaaaasper wrote:On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully. Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no. Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this. Edit: Apologies for my bitching.
even the big bad LoL worlds have technical problems, this is not limited to DOTA2.
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meh i don't mind the bad production qualities. the whole esport thing is still new and growing, we can't expect too much out of it
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On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely.
Low quality equipment is basically a given when it comes to China, unless it's government run.
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On January 29 2015 16:26 mutantmagnet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:14 DucK- wrote:On January 29 2015 16:09 Sabu113 wrote:On January 29 2015 15:55 DucK- wrote:On January 29 2015 15:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Actually, at this point i think GK is right, venge is fucking terrible. Heh I agreed with him, though not as extreme. Swap is the only good skill she has, and it's the only reason to pick her. Feels like a week ago she was the tier 1 support with a good stun, armor reduction for rosh, swap and that dont you dare kill me aura. Her stun is actually quite bad and the -armour and aura is kinda overrated. Swap is the only reason she should be picked, which means she doesn't deserve the first pick she is often getting. The aura isn't overrated. It's pretty much what carries her into having a 14% better winrate than the other supports not named AA.
Well that win rate is more due to swap than the aura.
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On January 29 2015 16:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:31 Jaaaaasper wrote:On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully. Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no. Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this.
hold it like me:
On January 27 2015 19:29 hfglgg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 00:14 blobrus wrote:
My excitement for this tournament is reaching insane levels. The fact that we haven't been able to see the good teams play for weeks makes this so hype. my hypelevel is seriously lowered by the fact that all previous chinese tournaments in the last year were huge failures and bts is delivering shaky quality at best. ill watch the opening match tomorrow and decide how hyped i will get.
the problem is that you are still getting disappointed because they somehow manage to not surpass the ridiculous low expectations by one bit.
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On January 29 2015 16:35 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:On January 29 2015 16:31 Jaaaaasper wrote:On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully. Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no. Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this. Edit: Apologies for my bitching. even the big bad LoL worlds have technical problems, this is not limited to DOTA2.
BW never had these screw ups. Quake, Counter Strike... 10 years ago the average tournament with a prize pool of $1k was ran smoother. Just recently my memories of law tournaments have been really bad in Dota 2. Summit 2 filled with plague, and many others, and now supposedly the 2nd biggest tournament of the year also.
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On January 29 2015 16:36 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. Low quality equipment is basically a given when it comes to China, unless it's government run.
even their government stuff is bad....have you seen their "new" stealth fighter?
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On January 29 2015 16:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:31 Jaaaaasper wrote:On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully. Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no. Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this. Edit: Apologies for my bitching.
I mean to some point its understandable, but it seems like every other tournament is a issue filled mess. It gets old really fast. If it wasn't for the fact that LCS and blizzards WCS which are run by the big companies I'd be more upset at organizations, but at this point I have accepted that I'm going to wind up not watching one out of every three tournies that I want to watch due to unbearably stupid stuff.
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On January 29 2015 16:38 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:On January 29 2015 16:31 Jaaaaasper wrote:On January 29 2015 16:28 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.
Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely. I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully. Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no. Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this. Edit: Apologies for my bitching. I mean to some point its understandable, but it seems like every other tournament is a issue filled mess. It gets old really fast. If it wasn't for the fact that LCS and blizzards WCS which are run by the big companies I'd be more upset at organizations, but at this point I have accepted that I'm going to wind up not watching one out of every three tournies that I want to watch due to unbearably stupid stuff.
Yep, I don't even know who is to blame though, shouldn't the bad firms be displaced by the good ones?
If anything, it shows how a competitive free market approach leads to market failure when dealing with information technologies (as if we didn't know that already).
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so far, they mangaged to get more delays after each game.
how is that even possible. lol
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Don't lie boys. KYXY can deny rapiers too.
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Let the otakus have game chair. Throne for king.
Is this chinese food in the background?
Rave/LGD lobby is finally up.
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On January 29 2015 16:29 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:27 KristofferAG wrote:On January 29 2015 16:25 the`postman wrote:
if you're gonna play three games at a time you could at least stagger them so there's always something to watch. While there's enough teams to make that happen, with the delays that could end up making things even worse. Do explain? A game starting every 30 minutes, vs 3 games starting every 90.
Well I guess with 16 teams they'd have to completely screw up their scheduling for the delays to be that bad. Still, I personally prefer it like this. There's rarely more than 1 game going on I want to watch, and it's nice to have break so I can do some chores. Laundry, homework, food, that kind of stuff.
I'm sure there would be plenty of things to complain about with staggered matches. Like forcing you to skip the end of one match if you really wanted to catch the start of another, or the other way around.
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Pretty excited to see the new Secret in action for the first time.
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On January 29 2015 16:42 hfglgg wrote:
so far, they mangaged to get more delays after each game.
how is that even possible. lol
It's a form of population control.
People will die from being passed about these delays today.
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On January 29 2015 16:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 16:42 hfglgg wrote:
so far, they mangaged to get more delays after each game.
how is that even possible. lol It's a form of population control. People will die from being passed about these delays today.
china's population control game is strong.
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