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Misery has been a good replacement for EGM. He's a consistent player AND has made a lot of big plays recently
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On October 10 2014 11:03 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:00 broodmann wrote:On October 10 2014 10:58 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:51 pellejohnson wrote:
Not easy to perform when they lost 2 out of their 3 best players. Loda and Bulldog has always been the worst players in the team i dunno how you people quantify this kind of crap when alliance winning ti3 was entirely dependent on bulldog's unique playstyle rofl you have to be kidding me. Alliance won ti3 becase they had mastered wisp first and knew how to play wisp. Secondly they won ti3 because they had Naga when no one else could play naga siren. Finally they had s4 at the peak of his powers. S4 was the best mid in the world at the time and allowed alliance to play their greedy 2core with Loda and AB getting farm. lol a lot of those strategies were contingent on bulldog's unique carry-splitpusher-from-offlane style you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level They did Ban NP/LD, did you even watch Ti3? no they didn't lol. They banned bat/chen/wisp. Watch the matches lol.
puppey banned out chen and naga siren 1st 2 bans in every grand finals game. (they were also the only team that took a game off of alliance except for Burning AM)
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On October 10 2014 11:03 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 10:58 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:51 pellejohnson wrote:
Not easy to perform when they lost 2 out of their 3 best players. Loda and Bulldog has always been the worst players in the team i dunno how you people quantify this kind of crap when alliance winning ti3 was entirely dependent on bulldog's unique playstyle rofl you have to be kidding me. Alliance won ti3 becase they had mastered wisp first and knew how to play wisp. Secondly they won ti3 because they had Naga when no one else could play naga siren. Finally they had s4 at the peak of his powers. S4 was the best mid in the world at the time and allowed alliance to play their greedy 2core with Loda and AB getting farm. lol a lot of those strategies were contingent on bulldog's unique carry-splitpusher-from-offlane style you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level ... ok still doesn't change the fact that they could've made it work last season by putting s4 in the offlane, it's not like s4 suddenly lost all his heroes, they were just too stubborn with trying to get their tempo controller launched in the midlane (where they could put bulldog with certain splitpushers). bulldog wasn't the weak link, [a]s choices in drafting/laning heroes was
AB can't play mid heroes so that's irrelevant lol. They are constrained in their drafting/laning when AB can only play some heroes well.
They were stuck last year because they needed NP/wisp
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On October 10 2014 11:04 Lachrymose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:02 calmasfok wrote:
edit: im retarded and dont know how post videos of loda failing. Can you give it a rest already?
was being serious. video was relevant
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 10 2014 11:03 tehh4ck3r wrote:
the biggest problems with alliance is that
1. 6.79 patch was direct nerf to their playstyle
2. they lost their captain and drafter (and probably the best player on their team)
they haven't been drafting well since TI3 and losing s4 only compounded that
regardless of your opinion on loda and bulldog, alliance with S4 and EGM instead of h4nni and misery probably would have lost to EG as well
huh if they had a semi competent batrider player they woulda won game 1 and taken the series 2-0, fairly easily.
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On October 10 2014 11:03 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:00 broodmann wrote:On October 10 2014 10:58 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:51 pellejohnson wrote:
Not easy to perform when they lost 2 out of their 3 best players. Loda and Bulldog has always been the worst players in the team i dunno how you people quantify this kind of crap when alliance winning ti3 was entirely dependent on bulldog's unique playstyle rofl you have to be kidding me. Alliance won ti3 becase they had mastered wisp first and knew how to play wisp. Secondly they won ti3 because they had Naga when no one else could play naga siren. Finally they had s4 at the peak of his powers. S4 was the best mid in the world at the time and allowed alliance to play their greedy 2core with Loda and AB getting farm. lol a lot of those strategies were contingent on bulldog's unique carry-splitpusher-from-offlane style you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level They did Ban NP/LD, did you even watch Ti3? no they didn't lol. They banned bat/chen/wisp. Watch the matches lol.
there were more matches in ti than the finals.
bulldog ld was banned a lot, but teams made the mistake of allowing his NP
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On October 10 2014 11:05 tehh4ck3r wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:03 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 11:00 broodmann wrote:On October 10 2014 10:58 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:51 pellejohnson wrote:
Not easy to perform when they lost 2 out of their 3 best players. Loda and Bulldog has always been the worst players in the team i dunno how you people quantify this kind of crap when alliance winning ti3 was entirely dependent on bulldog's unique playstyle rofl you have to be kidding me. Alliance won ti3 becase they had mastered wisp first and knew how to play wisp. Secondly they won ti3 because they had Naga when no one else could play naga siren. Finally they had s4 at the peak of his powers. S4 was the best mid in the world at the time and allowed alliance to play their greedy 2core with Loda and AB getting farm. lol a lot of those strategies were contingent on bulldog's unique carry-splitpusher-from-offlane style you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level They did Ban NP/LD, did you even watch Ti3? no they didn't lol. They banned bat/chen/wisp. Watch the matches lol. puppey banned out chen and naga siren 1st 2 bans in every grand finals game. (they were also the only team that took a game off of alliance except for Burning AM)
the games na'vi banned out NP LD they lost. (Winner's finals 2-0)
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On October 10 2014 11:03 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:00 broodmann wrote:On October 10 2014 10:58 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:55 bagels21 wrote:On October 10 2014 10:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On October 10 2014 10:51 pellejohnson wrote:
Not easy to perform when they lost 2 out of their 3 best players. Loda and Bulldog has always been the worst players in the team i dunno how you people quantify this kind of crap when alliance winning ti3 was entirely dependent on bulldog's unique playstyle rofl you have to be kidding me. Alliance won ti3 becase they had mastered wisp first and knew how to play wisp. Secondly they won ti3 because they had Naga when no one else could play naga siren. Finally they had s4 at the peak of his powers. S4 was the best mid in the world at the time and allowed alliance to play their greedy 2core with Loda and AB getting farm. lol a lot of those strategies were contingent on bulldog's unique carry-splitpusher-from-offlane style you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level They did Ban NP/LD, did you even watch Ti3? no they didn't lol. They banned bat/chen/wisp. Watch the matches lol.
bullshit, if you're talking finals only maybe (although wisp didnt get banned)
there were tons of LD first bans etc
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Cloud9 please no Clown9 tactics.
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On October 10 2014 11:06 Kabras wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:03 tehh4ck3r wrote:
the biggest problems with alliance is that
1. 6.79 patch was direct nerf to their playstyle
2. they lost their captain and drafter (and probably the best player on their team)
they haven't been drafting well since TI3 and losing s4 only compounded that
regardless of your opinion on loda and bulldog, alliance with S4 and EGM instead of h4nni and misery probably would have lost to EG as well huh if they had a semi competent batrider player they woulda won game 1 and taken the series 2-0, fairly easily.
I don't agree. Bulldog could've played better, sure, and a player like Bone7 would've performed better on bat and bought [A] more time for Anti-mage to come online, but that was a nightmare of a game for batrider, the draft was on the weak side and their early game was terrible.
[A]'s late game comeback was more on EG's faults than their merits.
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Loda played very well today. The actual series loser was bulldog. He made many cringe worthy plays on batrider on both games.
Plus EG is probably the strongest team this tournament and it was a close series. It sucks it was this early in the tournament
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Wisp was much more of a factor for Alliance's success at TI3 than either LD or NP. Both in Grand Finals and during groups/playoffs.
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On October 10 2014 11:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Cloud9 please no Clown9 tactics.
don't worry, C9 has a plan
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On October 10 2014 11:11 Makro wrote:don't worry, C9 has a plan
It's the 2nd place plan 
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On October 10 2014 11:12 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 11:11 Makro wrote:On October 10 2014 11:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Cloud9 please no Clown9 tactics. don't worry, C9 has a plan It's the 2nd place plan
last place or 2nd place
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That walk-on just killed e-sports.
No way c9 loses this, right?
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On October 10 2014 11:13 FHDH wrote:
That walk-on just killed e-sports.
No way c9 loses this, right?
Don't challenge ee like that
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Has TC ever taken a picture where he has smiled lol
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what the heck ixmike~ lol
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