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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:56 PhoenixVoid wrote: Sadly happens on a Thursday night and the tickets were fairly pricey. The tournament being run on thursday+friday just killed it for a lot of people that would come otherwise imo. Plus, it's also already 10PM already here on the east coast. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:57 blobrus wrote: Redeye's such a good host, asking about the tl loda hate. Actually, if you listened to what he said, he was doing the exact opposite. He was questioning whether all the Loda praise (from the panel) was warranted since he was just doing what he was supposed to be doing. | ||
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Veles
United States3280 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:55 bagels21 wrote: rofl you have to be kidding me. Alliance won ti3 becase they had mastered wisp first and knew how to play wisp. Secondly they won ti3 because they had Naga when no one else could play naga siren support*. Finally they had s4 at the peak of his powers. S4 was the best mid in the world at the time and allowed alliance to play their greedy 2core with Loda and AB getting farm. lol ... and bulldog np? its not that they mastered wisp. They were the first team to realize that you win dota by killing base and had by far the best splitpushing game and were very efficient with their farming. they also abused BB the most and turned around a lot of mid game fights, then went on to rat enemy to death | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:54 Kipsate wrote: CAn we not turn this into a fucking Loda Bashing thread you guys have been going at it for the past like hour. Agreed, the next series needs to start so that it can become an EE bashing thread. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
I agree, doesn't undermine my point. | ||
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Snorkle
United States1648 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:53 TMG26 wrote: Let's ignore all the farm he got under pressure, and his spot on decision making. What spot on decision making? He played the 1 in two 4p1 strategies. Its like people forgot what those games look like. Even the analyst desk "oh man loda was playing from behind" of fucking course you are behind when you play 4p1 against a 3 core push lineup. FFS | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:56 stuchiu wrote: Sure, but what has he done for us recently? He's been the best player till last month... | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Procake
3803 Posts
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: a lot of those strategies were contingent on bulldog's unique carry-splitpusher-from-offlane style you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:50 CosmicSpiral wrote: Nope. The pick would have been good if it was a more standard mid. Being a natural MKB carrier with high burst damage is great, but it doesn't work when it forces your team to go for a strict wombo-combo style. Alliance had mediocre damage to kill targets without Gyro being in the fight, and EG made the fights so chaotic Alliance could never start the fight on their terms. I have no idea even what this means. Wombo-combo styles doesnt work? Big teamfight ulties and combos have been trending for the last half year or something. Mediocre damage without gyro? So? EG had mediocre damage without PA. Who cares? And how does a pick become bad if you complain about how the rest of the team doesnt do enough without the 5th. If that is ever a reason, then the problem was the other 4, not the 5th. But your whole reasoning is like.... random words. Alliance could never start fights on their terms? Ye its not like they had two super strong initiators in void and clock. And once again, how is them lacking initiation (which they didnt lack) in any way remotely relevant to how good the gyro pick was? Im reading your post over and over again, its random words, trying to understand them and the reasoning behind them is impossible. About everything you say is questionable or completely irrelevant. If you want to explain why a pick is bad, you do it by putting that heros abilities in context of the other 9 heroes on the field and explain why the hero's abilities dont synergy with his own team (say, picking a stun that needs setup without setup), doesnt fit the overall strategy of the team (say, picking a lategame hero with 4 pushers) or is easily countered by the enemy team. Not throwing out random words. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:58 Procake wrote: EG's shirts are so bad, they have those long sleeves that are a different colour that people wore when I was 12 wow is alliance vs eg bringing all of this negativity ? | ||
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calmasfok
91 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:58 Spicy_Curry wrote: Did anyone really expect Alliance to beat EG with a standin? Thing is that none of the players were comfortable in this situation and debating whether or not someone is a good player gets us no where. Loda did play well this series compared to his teammates which we are not used to as spectators because the previous support duo, EGM+AKKE were so stellar at dictating the tempo of the game. akke and misery played well. loda played badly. hanni and bulldog where next level bad | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:58 wuhan_clan wrote: Actually, if you listened to what he said, he was doing the exact opposite. He was questioning whether all the Loda praise (from the panel) was warranted since he was just doing what he was supposed to be doing. Yeah he was bringing up the counterpoints people like you and that other dude were making to question the praise, that's what I mean. | ||
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broodmann
604 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:58 bagels21 wrote: you do realize that bulldog could only carry/split push because they had to ban out s4 and EGM's heroes? (also akke's chen) He could only get so much farm because s4 would gank and win midgame with the two supports... If it really were AB they would have banned NP/LD. Bulldog even now can only play those 2 heroes at a T1 level They did Ban NP/LD, did you even watch Ti3? | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:59 calmasfok wrote: akke and misery played well. loda played badly. hanni and bulldog where next level bad Does anyone still think Alliance is better than EG with or with out a stand in? | ||
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Romitelli
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:57 stuchiu wrote: I know Redeye follows teamliquid when sc2 events are on, he does the same for liquiddota? Probably, as far as I know he's less versed in Dota than in SC2, so it'd be a good idea to get a deeper insight (even if some of it is just mindless bashing lol). | ||
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