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Please do not derail the thread with discussions or accusations of racism.

Throwaway caster bashing posts will also be actioned.

No accusations of matchfixing.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 21 2014 16:46 GMT
#301
On July 22 2014 01:45 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:32 CherryNubCakes wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:29 Orome wrote:
LOL

'let's talk about previous ti winners'

conveniently skip ig

WHAT? I had to step away for a bit; are they seriously doing Na'Vi/Alliance and skipping iG? With this and the Na'Vi 2012 TI champs shit, it's almost like intentional retconning.


Yup. They had videos of Navi/Alliance left, so I guess they wanted to show those.


ig didnt want them to show their strats huehuehue
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 21 2014 16:46 GMT
#302
sheever should make out with someone so at least we are distracted while waiting
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
July 21 2014 16:46 GMT
#303
On July 22 2014 01:31 Playguuu wrote:
I feel like they're going to try to overhype this thing and the actual games will be over in like 2 hours.


Yea the games are not going to be like TI3
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 21 2014 16:46 GMT
#304
On July 22 2014 01:46 icystorage wrote:
sheever should make out with someone so at least we are distracted while waiting


I volunteer as tribute.
ffxiv enjoyer
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 16:47:13
July 21 2014 16:46 GMT
#305
On July 22 2014 01:46 yyfpulls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:31 Playguuu wrote:
I feel like they're going to try to overhype this thing and the actual games will be over in like 2 hours.


Yea the games are not going to be like TI3


So they will be more interesting except for the last game.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 21 2014 16:47 GMT
#306
i wonder whats the % of ppl there that called in sick or took a vacation day
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 16:47 GMT
#307
On July 22 2014 01:40 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.

Well if ur Enigma is level 2 5 minutes in and stacked ancients accidentely(if it was on purpose I have no idea what his thinking was) that doesn't really help either.

I am pretty sure they knew their jungle was fucked or was going to get agroed to hell. They had no ability to protect him from getting rekted in jungle, so they tried to have him stack. They drafted greedy and tried to change course, but it was to late.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 21 2014 16:48 GMT
#308
On July 22 2014 01:44 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:40 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:38 Sevre wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:36 zev318 wrote:
so why is chat going racist everytime newbee is on stream? i mustve missed some interview or something



From my understanding, apparently xiao8 won't scrim with foreigners.

that's confirmed to be wrong.


It didn't sound right, but that's where the cries of "RACIST" on Twitch come from iirc.

Hao complained about "foreign dogs", didn't he? Pretty sure that actually did happen.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 21 2014 16:48 GMT
#309
On July 22 2014 01:46 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:46 yyfpulls wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:31 Playguuu wrote:
I feel like they're going to try to overhype this thing and the actual games will be over in like 2 hours.


Yea the games are not going to be like TI3


So they will be more interesting except for the last game.


4 great games into a 2 hour camp fest game 5
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 21 2014 16:48 GMT
#310
On July 22 2014 01:47 zev318 wrote:
i wonder whats the % of ppl there that called in sick or took a vacation day


Took a day off to watch from home
TranslatorBaa!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
July 21 2014 16:48 GMT
#311
On July 22 2014 01:46 icystorage wrote:
sheever should make out with someone so at least we are distracted while waiting

Huehue definitely not Bulldog right.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
July 21 2014 16:48 GMT
#312
Yeah its entirely possible, given the nature of these 2 teams drafts over the past week (a lot of early 5 man pushing) we could have very short games.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#313
On July 22 2014 01:44 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:40 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:38 Sevre wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:36 zev318 wrote:
so why is chat going racist everytime newbee is on stream? i mustve missed some interview or something



From my understanding, apparently xiao8 won't scrim with foreigners.

that's confirmed to be wrong.


It didn't sound right, but that's where the cries of "RACIST" on Twitch come from iirc.


The cries of racist come from Banana calling Chuan 'malaysian dog' when they had an argument, Hao suggesting the fully Chinese teams should play with a .CN tag at WPC and rumours of Newbee telling everyone to boycott DK because they have non-Chinese on their team (this last one is most likely bullshit).

tldr Some players on Newbee harbour more nationalist/xenophobic feelings than I'm comfortable with, but the whole 'RACIST' shit is just twitch.tv being fucking idiotic as usual.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#314
Is there a winners advantage?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 16:49:21
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#315
On July 22 2014 01:48 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:46 Numy wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:46 yyfpulls wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:31 Playguuu wrote:
I feel like they're going to try to overhype this thing and the actual games will be over in like 2 hours.


Yea the games are not going to be like TI3


So they will be more interesting except for the last game.


4 great games into a 2 hour camp fest game 5


Shit one can dream can't they. I hope we get Kotl PL Furion Medusa game 5.
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#316
Mu > Super
Xaio8 > rOtk
Sylar > Hao
Fenrir + fy > Sansheng + Banana
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#317
wow. I remember people were writing off VG's early few day success in group stages as mere luck. I thought there was merit to people's arguments admittedly. But I guess we were wrong.
Byun, best player in the world!
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#318
On July 22 2014 01:48 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:44 Sevre wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:40 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:38 Sevre wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:36 zev318 wrote:
so why is chat going racist everytime newbee is on stream? i mustve missed some interview or something



From my understanding, apparently xiao8 won't scrim with foreigners.

that's confirmed to be wrong.


It didn't sound right, but that's where the cries of "RACIST" on Twitch come from iirc.

Hao complained about "foreign dogs", didn't he? Pretty sure that actually did happen.


That I don't know about. Should I ask Twitch chat?
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#319
On July 22 2014 01:48 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:46 icystorage wrote:
sheever should make out with someone so at least we are distracted while waiting

Huehue definitely not Bulldog right.

I vote for James
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#320
On July 22 2014 01:47 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:40 Kipsate wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.

Well if ur Enigma is level 2 5 minutes in and stacked ancients accidentely(if it was on purpose I have no idea what his thinking was) that doesn't really help either.

I am pretty sure they knew their jungle was fucked or was going to get agroed to hell. They had no ability to protect him from getting rekted in jungle, so they tried to have him stack. They drafted greedy and tried to change course, but it was to late.


Kipsate was probably referring to enigmas inability to get anything out of the ancients if he stacks them and therefore screw him even harder. They could have done it together but that is not really an option against VG
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