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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 21 2014 16:38 GMT
#281
On July 22 2014 01:37 Bam Lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.


yea i know but i mean, i read some people say it was just the void pick. and it wasnt JUST the void pick, it was the whole draft.


EG just never stopped being greedy. I don't understand. You know the team you playing against is all about early objectives and yet you keep drafting/laning/playing greedy. Just stop being greedy ffs.
Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
July 21 2014 16:39 GMT
#282
On July 22 2014 01:33 Kipsate wrote:
Syllars seating position when he plays is interesting lol


That hip and ankle flexibility
Wonder if it gives you extra concentration
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#283
When will the games start?
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#284
On July 22 2014 01:38 Shikada wrote:
Yaaaaay, I just played a solo queue pub where a team rolled us by playing all push heroes. Thanks a lot TI4!!!

i'm sure will gonna miss the time when you had to be running on the map for 50min trying to catch furion/tinker/lycan
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#285
On July 22 2014 01:38 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:36 zev318 wrote:
so why is chat going racist everytime newbee is on stream? i mustve missed some interview or something



From my understanding, apparently xiao8 won't scrim with foreigners.

that's confirmed to be wrong.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#286
I wonder if there will be less viewers than last year.. i mean so far it's not that much, right?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#287
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.

Well if ur Enigma is level 2 5 minutes in and stacked ancients accidentely(if it was on purpose I have no idea what his thinking was) that doesn't really help either.
WriterXiao8~~
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#288
On July 22 2014 01:39 Namunelbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:33 Kipsate wrote:
Syllars seating position when he plays is interesting lol


That hip and ankle flexibility
Wonder if it gives you extra concentration


i wonder how he can practice for horus in that position
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#289
On July 22 2014 01:39 Namunelbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:33 Kipsate wrote:
Syllars seating position when he plays is interesting lol


That hip and ankle flexibility
Wonder if it gives you extra concentration


Syllar = L confirmed
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 21 2014 16:41 GMT
#290
On July 22 2014 01:37 Bam Lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.


yea i know but i mean, i read some people say it was just the void pick. and it wasnt JUST the void pick, it was the whole draft.


Pretty much.
PPD was LUCKY. LUCKY to win game 2.
If it wasn't for Universe pulling out the best chronos ever seen in pro Dota, EG was going to lose with that draft. PPD literally drafted the same greedy bullshit 3 times in that series. Twice he got rofl stomped. He would have gotten stomped in game 2 if it wasn't for Universe's heroic performance.
"Best drafter" my ass
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 16:41 GMT
#291
On July 22 2014 01:39 Namunelbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:33 Kipsate wrote:
Syllars seating position when he plays is interesting lol


That hip and ankle flexibility
Wonder if it gives you extra concentration

Dunno, all I know is that he likes to smash computers whenever he wins a big tournament, in B4 he destroys his screen when they win TI.
WriterXiao8~~
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 21 2014 16:42 GMT
#292
On July 22 2014 01:40 AwfuL_ wrote:
I wonder if there will be less viewers than last year.. i mean so far it's not that much, right?


good time for euros. they will carry the #s
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 21 2014 16:42 GMT
#293
I have to say i did not like the keyarena so far. Everything feels so huge and serious, the old setting had a rather homey feeling. Just my opinion tho
Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
July 21 2014 16:43 GMT
#294
Oh the memories

+ Show Spoiler +
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 21 2014 16:43 GMT
#295
On July 22 2014 01:42 Bam Lee wrote:
I have to say i did not like the keyarena so far. Everything feels so huge and serious, the old setting had a rather homey feeling. Just my opinion tho


esports bro
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 16:45:35
July 21 2014 16:44 GMT
#296
On July 22 2014 01:41 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:37 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.


yea i know but i mean, i read some people say it was just the void pick. and it wasnt JUST the void pick, it was the whole draft.


Pretty much.
PPD was LUCKY. LUCKY to win game 2.
If it wasn't for Universe pulling out the best chronos ever seen in pro Dota, EG was going to lose with that draft. PPD literally drafted the same greedy bullshit 3 times in that series. Twice he got rofl stomped. He would have gotten stomped in game 2 if it wasn't for Universe's heroic performance.
"Best drafter" my ass


ppd does feel a little bit overrated in terms of drafting if you look at the ti drafts, but what surprised me the most was that they stuck with void+enigma.
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
July 21 2014 16:44 GMT
#297
On July 22 2014 01:40 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:38 Sevre wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:36 zev318 wrote:
so why is chat going racist everytime newbee is on stream? i mustve missed some interview or something



From my understanding, apparently xiao8 won't scrim with foreigners.

that's confirmed to be wrong.


It didn't sound right, but that's where the cries of "RACIST" on Twitch come from iirc.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 21 2014 16:44 GMT
#298
On July 22 2014 01:40 AwfuL_ wrote:
I wonder if there will be less viewers than last year.. i mean so far it's not that much, right?



I think overall the numbers were up. I think that most of the dota tournaments air at this time anyway so it makes sense.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 16:45:26
July 21 2014 16:45 GMT
#299
On July 22 2014 01:41 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:37 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:28 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2014 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
I think you cant simply blame the void pick for EG's loss. I mean it worked out well in the 2nd game, why not go for it in the third? I feel what lost them the game was not giving it to universe

Have two team fight ults with massive cool downs is what killed them. Once they used them, VG just walked down mid. Also not protecting their jungle from getting WTF warded to death hurt enigma to much. It was as a super greedy draft and one that started out super greedy, since they locked in void and enigma first.

They could have drafted DK and been ready to party every 70 seconds. But they decided to go for super late game glory and got rekt.


They had enigma and void in the 2nd game as well and had the same issue. But universe chronos kept them in the game
The problem was midas alch and mason void

No, its going for the same draft twice in a row and expecting the extremely skilled professional team you are against not to catch on. Even if they put Mason on that void, I don't think he can save that game. They got out drafted and out played hard.


yea i know but i mean, i read some people say it was just the void pick. and it wasnt JUST the void pick, it was the whole draft.


Pretty much.
PPD was LUCKY. LUCKY to win game 2.
If it wasn't for Universe pulling out the best chronos ever seen in pro Dota, EG was going to lose with that draft. PPD literally drafted the same greedy bullshit 3 times in that series. Twice he got rofl stomped. He would have gotten stomped in game 2 if it wasn't for Universe's heroic performance.
"Best drafter" my ass


I still don't understand why he drafted TA into Razor in game 1. That's the biggest mystery of all three games to me.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 21 2014 16:45 GMT
#300
On July 22 2014 01:32 CherryNubCakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 01:29 Orome wrote:
LOL

'let's talk about previous ti winners'

conveniently skip ig

WHAT? I had to step away for a bit; are they seriously doing Na'Vi/Alliance and skipping iG? With this and the Na'Vi 2012 TI champs shit, it's almost like intentional retconning.


Yup. They had videos of Navi/Alliance left, so I guess they wanted to show those.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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