EPTOn July 22 2014 06:09 Mensol wrote:
It was the tournament where Jaedong barely beat Reality wasnt it?
It was the tournament where Jaedong barely beat Reality wasnt it?
Was it the one that Flash 3:0'd ZerO?
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Was it the one that Flash 3:0'd ZerO? | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:08 Mouzone wrote: Does there have to be any other reason than MONEY MONEY MONEY? Assuming TI5 will have an even larger prize pool than this and that it will keep growing over the years, it'll be like a yearly piñata festival for the great players of DotA. Alot can happen inbetween TI4 and TI5. Players can be bought out, teams can reshuffle, and tons of patches come out. It's not a forgone conclusion that Newbee would be an instant favorite at TI5 even with their current line-up. People that complain about the finals really haven't seen shit yet. Watching oldschool DotA 1 games where 3 deaths in the first 20 minutes means 60 minute slow death animation with Dusa showing up with 2 Rapiers/Bfly/Skadi was probably the worst shit ever. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
not that bad, maybe 70% | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:59 Acti wrote: This was the most anti climatic thing ever. Yep. TI3 would have been worth the 10mil hype, this was such a let down. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:05 Ultimo Hombre wrote: SKT sort of did that and loads of people still cheer for them SKT are one of the teams that kept its name and logos through out all these years, thats why they are considered a powerhouse and one of the symbols for professional starcraft. Thats one of the reasons why Navi have the largest fan base - they just have a long history, even if they reform with just Dendi on the team in the next 3 months they wont lose their popularity nor the team XBOCT and Puppy potentially go to and reform would be even remotely as popular. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:08 opterown wrote: somewhat possible - you're not as a big target to western teams, they don't know you as well? Worked in reverse too though. Newbee nearly got knocked out in stage 1 because of their lack of experience against Western teams. | ||
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SnowStormer
Norway275 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:52 Animzor wrote: so many months of build-up and hype for absolutely nothing. anonymous team goes against other anonymous team and one of them wins the biggest prize ever in esports. WHY!? gonna pretend like this fucking tournament never happened. I'm sorry that you're favorite team didn't win. I personally have been a xiao8 fan since ti2 qualifier, Mu and banana impressed me immensely at ti2, Fenrir and fy is the most amazing supportduo we've ever seen and rOtk is known for his xboct like plays at times. They might be anonymus to you but they aren't to me. And neither are they to the entire Chinese scene or anyone who is a fan of Chinese dota. | ||
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Ultimo Hombre
Australia1436 Posts
Yes, including that super frustrating game where Flash went mech and killed everything Zero sent at him over and over until gg | ||
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Namunelbo
501 Posts
 On a more serious note, you've finally made it Director8! Best director of the year for sure, I hope he is at least nominated for the awards at the end of the year. Gratz! | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Does anyone think oversaturation is becoming a problem in the Dota 2 scene? Since I think it was a case with SC2, and looking at the history, it feels like we've been seeing more tournaments this year than in the previous ones. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:10 Ultimo Hombre wrote: Yes, including that super frustrating game where Flash went mech and killed everything Zero sent at him over and over until gg His games look the way I wish my current TvZs look. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:59 Derity wrote: I strongly agree, that the way to the finals was not building up any hype. Never had the feeling that they play for so much money, could as well have been a 50k tournament. And what did you expect ? They won't start shooting lasers from their asses just because their playing for 5 million dollars. Its the same game. Final for 5M won't be much different than a final for 10k or less. Btw I don't know why everyone is so focused on the damn money. From the casters, the analysts desk to the fans. The first thing they think and talk about is the 5 million dollars... It this is the biggest selling point of TI, I don't know what to think about it. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
It's like the game is won and lost already in the drafting phase. It's like teams are pretty equal in mechanical proficiency, and that the difference therefore should be in the drafting... If Newbee had played with the heroes that VG picked those three games, and vice-versa, would the score be 1-3? | ||
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infiniteJest
United States187 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:08 opterown wrote: somewhat possible - you're not as a big target to western teams, they don't know you as well? Ya people were saying newbee would have a hard time since they are not used to playing western teams, but the opposite is also true. Maybe they knew if they could prepare for and beat the chinese teams they could win ti without having to put too much thought and effort into what the western scene was doing. | ||
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Varth
United States426 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:11 FiWiFaKi wrote: QUICK QUESTION! Does anyone think oversaturation is becoming a problem in the Dota 2 scene? Since I think it was a case with SC2, and looking at the history, it feels like we've been seeing more tournaments this year than in the previous ones. I think that it's an interesting conversation. On one hand, it's hard to remember all the major tournaments that happen all over the world, but on the other, it gives certain teams the ability to make strong showings or put their names out there. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:10 stuchiu wrote: Worked in reverse too though. Newbee nearly got knocked out in stage 1 because of their lack of experience against Western teams. To be fair it also was BO1, and a lot can happen with that. I'd prefer if they somehow could make the RR BO3 for all games and cut out the 3-4 days downtime we had. Also if they could fit some of the RR games in the main venue, so that all teams get to play there and their fans can see them, then that would be really nice. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:11 FiWiFaKi wrote: QUICK QUESTION! Does anyone think oversaturation is becoming a problem in the Dota 2 scene? Since I think it was a case with SC2, and looking at the history, it feels like we've been seeing more tournaments this year than in the previous ones. im pretty sure that the big difference is that the chinese scene had way more tournaments than last year | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 22 2014 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote: I'll quickly share my thoughts on why this finals and tournament didn't do it for me. Obviously like other people mentioned, Newbee and Vici aren't the most hype teams and the games weren't very intense. But I think what really mattered to me, is that before TI4, they were not looking solid. Vici losing to Fnatic, not really going far, Newbee still looking good but being bested by DK and iG relatively frequently... I can't call them the best teams in the world just because they have won TI. Their performance before hasn't shown it, so if they keep demolishing everyone for the next 4-6 months, then sure, I'll be happy for Newbee, and really say this was the start of something huge for them, but if Newbee just goes to disband since they all just made $1,000,000 USD, then there is this void of a champion to me. That's the main thing that did it for me, don't know if anyone else really feels this way. If I got 1 million dollar I would also stop working. It all depends on how old you are and if you still like what you are doing. I don't know who the players from Newbee are but if they are already giving everything for a couple of years, they deserve to take a long break or even definite break from DotA and enjoy their million. Nobody knew it was going to be 5 million for the first prize anyway. Everybody made it so big. So they got more than they "deserved" by the generosity of the community. Nothing wrong with that. | ||
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