EPT[TI4] Main Event Day 2 - Page 173
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Please do not continue this racism malarkey. It will be treated as a meme from now on (page 253 onwards). | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:16 Numy wrote: Well yea amazing mechanics are important and do help. All I really meant is that it's not AS important as in a game like SC2. I think the best example of this is watching a team like Mouz play late game vs a team like A. The shear strategic knowledge and experience difference is so absurd I agree in that I don't think that mechanics are crazy important in Dota 2. However when someone has bad mechanics in a certain game, like missing easy CS, or misclicking spells, etc. You can say they are having a rough game. Just because someone missing a smoke gank, doesn't mean they are playing badly, but missing easy CS is one of the easiest ways to see someone is playing poorly. Just like it's very easy to spot a bad Chrono or Blackhole, while other spells are harder to spot when they are bad. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:19 FiWiFaKi wrote: I agree in that I don't think that mechanics are crazy important in Dota 2. However when someone has bad mechanics in a certain game, like missing easy CS, or misclicking spells, etc. You can say they are having a rough game. Just because someone missing a smoke gank, doesn't mean they are playing badly, but missing easy CS is one of the easiest ways to see someone is playing poorly. Just like it's very easy to spot a bad Chrono or Blackhole, while other spells are harder to spot when they are bad. and yet missing a smoke gank is faaaar more impactful than missing a cs | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:18 Bam Lee wrote: Well it is also about reaction time which i do consider mechanical(might be wrong on that). Like in 1 game the invoker could orchid the batrider after the blink before he could lasso. Its not something i would only say is a matter of positioning most of the time when we see quick silences/hexes after blink ins it is actually the player just waiting with the mouse and skill activated at the point where they expect the blink so it's more prediction than reaction again | ||
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Galtakar
Sweden374 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:19 Talron wrote: Dunno guys, but the majority of Void performances from pretty much everyone have been pretty subpar to say the least. Don't get why teams still value him so highly and pick him during 1st phase. You are correct but if you can get him to snowball just a bit and land 1 or 2 good spheres, he can end a fight by himself (essentially). | ||
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TR
2320 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:18 cilinder007 wrote: FERRARI INVOKER YEEEEEEEEEES WE WON EDIT: it's not gg we lost | ||
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AciD_DotA
United States463 Posts
This is true, and wasn't taken into account I don't think. That answer should be revoked because of not enough information. | ||
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juff
Singapore4659 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:15 ramon wrote: drafting can produce advantages that can snowball really quickly basically if your draft turns 50/50 into 55/45 it's omghuge It's closer to selecting builds in starcraft. Different drafts peak in strength at different times. Whether or not you can hit those timings is based on execution. | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:19 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: despite the bandwagon against pld's bh pick, rhasta aa is actually a terrible trilane duo and terrible support duo in general, and na'vi laned that the worst way possible and didn't protect their dp against 2 ganks they could've outplayed c9, but the way they started out lanes (pretty much before the game "starts") put them at a huge disadvantage uhm yeah thats kinda what i meant. You cant just take a look at the heroes and say one team has won,laning plays a huge role and also if they make the correct rotations | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:19 Talron wrote: Dunno guys, but the majority of Void performances from pretty much everyone have been pretty subpar to say the least. Don't get why teams still value him so highly and pick him during 1st phase. It's so easy to believe that you can survive long enough until he becomes amazing. It's really that hero where if you hang in long enough without a huge disadvantage you'll be golden at the 35min-40min and beyond point... Combos well with many spells like sunstrike and SWM ulti too. | ||
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Veles
United States3280 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:19 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: despite the bandwagon, rhasta aa is actually a terrible trilane duo and terrible support duo in general, and na'vi laned that the worst way possible and didn't protect their dp against 2 ganks they could've outplayed c9, but the way they started out lanes (pretty much before the game "starts") put them at a huge disadvantage I think rhasta/aa is a good example of a support duo that has awful comeback potential Both need lvl 6, and if you are having a bad start your opponent will be able to take easy fights/towers before they hit 6 Also, when you lane aggressive trilane your supports will get shit xp unless you get kills. Navi didn't get kills. Rhasta got 12+ minutes wards = gg | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
I want to see ferrari on it so much though.. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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Galtakar
Sweden374 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
Kunkka we won ;] | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:21 Kabras wrote: lol ig copying lgd's heroes. this stuff doesn't usually work not really copying though, because IG plays the same heroes just as well the entire Chinese scene all plays the same stuff generally, except for standouts like IG ember spirit | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:20 Bam Lee wrote: uhm yeah thats kinda what i meant. You cant just take a look at the heroes and say one team has won,laning plays a huge role and also if they make the correct rotations sry, i edited in the point that c9's draft probably had better laning options overall, and a lot of drafts tell their own laning story. so you could say they had an advantage at the draft. | ||
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