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On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote: IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god. why the hell are you even still replying to him?
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sange doesn't actually give you mobility right? maybe he was thinking about sny/yasha?
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I think Newbee fooled everyone into thinking they can Death Prophet like them but apparently no one can. Such terrible DP's from Na'vi and iG.
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On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote: IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god.
Excuse me?
Do you remember when Excalibur, who only played pubs, at Summit, beat DK?
And he's like woah man, DK made lots of mistakes, I expected pro teams to be better? Do you remember that? The difference isn't drastic when it comes to mechanical skill. sigh.
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This is a fucking great comp from lgd. Liquid are probably looking in awe
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On July 20 2014 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote: IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god. Excuse me? Do you remember when Excalibur, who only played pubs, at Summit, beat DK? And he's like woah man, DK made lots of mistakes, I expected pro teams to be better? Do you remember that? The difference isn't drastic when it comes to mechanical skill. sigh. straight out of trollvillage
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On July 20 2014 05:55 stuchiu wrote: If you listen carefully you can hear Ayesee scream FROM DOWNTOWN
Aw man, now I'm sad there's no Ayesee in the main event
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Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose
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On July 20 2014 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote: IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god. Excuse me? Do you remember when Excalibur, who only played pubs, at Summit, beat DK? And he's like woah man, DK made lots of mistakes, I expected pro teams to be better? Do you remember that? The difference isn't drastic when it comes to mechanical skill. sigh.
Ok, i'm giving up. It's like talking to a brick wall.
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On July 20 2014 05:58 Aerisky wrote: sange doesn't actually give you mobility right? maybe he was thinking about sny/yasha? Alch had 2/3 components of Yasha in his stash and has the full SnY now.
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So I went back in the replay as requested. Didn't see any of these blatant misses. He was playing a bit passively at times when he didn't know where support was. At 10 minutes he has CS score of 58/14 with invoker having 40/13. So it's about 2 off of where you want to be in mid lane at 10 minutes.
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On July 20 2014 06:00 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 05:55 stuchiu wrote: If you listen carefully you can hear Ayesee scream FROM DOWNTOWN Aw man, now I'm sad there's no Ayesee in the main event
why ayesee is not here D:
well i am happy to not hear his casting >_> based volvo
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On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote: Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose
g2 navi c9 an hour ago?
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On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote: Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose
its more of a core here than carrying, and navi just won with it
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Just gg already, iG. They can't kill a single thing anymore.
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On July 20 2014 06:01 kirsed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote: Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose g2 navi c9 an hour ago? It was mid veno on de-facto 3rd position, not safelane veno.
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On July 20 2014 05:58 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote: IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. A lot of people have this image of Pros on this level, never missing a CS, like literally at all. The reality is quite different if you control the camera and focus on one of them. Yes a lot are very good at CSing and doesn't miss much, but not everyone is perfect. Missing CS doesn't matter in mid. For Voker, it's more about levels and not dying which matters most. P.S. and by the way, tunnel visioning CSing doesn't mean anything.
I didn't mean to make such a big fuss about a point, but I guess how I say things I always get dragged into stuff.
I myself am a mid player, I don't normally just spectate one player, and I guess I tunnel vision into CS'ing, that's my strength... But last hit wise he didn't impress me (quite the opposite), that's all I wanted to say.
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