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Please do not continue this racism malarkey. It will be treated as a meme from now on (page 253 onwards).
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#3301
On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430.


Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol


Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor.


Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame>

You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post.


No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale.

I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind.


Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe.

It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during.

You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better.


Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV.


Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god.

why the hell are you even still replying to him?
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#3302
sange doesn't actually give you mobility right? maybe he was thinking about sny/yasha?
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
July 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#3303
I think Newbee fooled everyone into thinking they can Death Prophet like them but apparently no one can. Such terrible DP's from Na'vi and iG.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#3304
On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430.


Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol


Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor.


Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame>

You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post.


No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale.

I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind.


Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe.

It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during.

You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better.


Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV.


Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god.


Excuse me?

Do you remember when Excalibur, who only played pubs, at Summit, beat DK?

And he's like woah man, DK made lots of mistakes, I expected pro teams to be better? Do you remember that? The difference isn't drastic when it comes to mechanical skill. sigh.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 19 2014 20:58 GMT
#3305
this has to be game
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
July 19 2014 20:59 GMT
#3306
This is a fucking great comp from lgd. Liquid are probably looking in awe
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
July 19 2014 20:59 GMT
#3307
On July 20 2014 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430.


Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol


Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor.


Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame>

You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post.


No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale.

I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind.


Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe.

It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during.

You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better.


Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV.


Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god.


Excuse me?

Do you remember when Excalibur, who only played pubs, at Summit, beat DK?

And he's like woah man, DK made lots of mistakes, I expected pro teams to be better? Do you remember that? The difference isn't drastic when it comes to mechanical skill. sigh.

straight out of trollvillage
bisu
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 19 2014 21:00 GMT
#3308
On July 20 2014 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
If you listen carefully you can hear Ayesee scream FROM DOWNTOWN


Aw man, now I'm sad there's no Ayesee in the main event
Bora Pain minha porra!
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 19 2014 21:00 GMT
#3309
Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 19 2014 21:00 GMT
#3310
On July 20 2014 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 05:57 Oddball28 wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430.


Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol


Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor.


Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame>

You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post.


No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale.

I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind.


Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe.

It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during.

You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better.


Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV.


Are you serious now or just blatantly trolling? Are you seriously comparing the situation in 5,5k MMR games to a fucking professional game? Oh my god.


Excuse me?

Do you remember when Excalibur, who only played pubs, at Summit, beat DK?

And he's like woah man, DK made lots of mistakes, I expected pro teams to be better? Do you remember that? The difference isn't drastic when it comes to mechanical skill. sigh.


Ok, i'm giving up. It's like talking to a brick wall.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 19 2014 21:00 GMT
#3311
On July 20 2014 05:58 Aerisky wrote:
sange doesn't actually give you mobility right? maybe he was thinking about sny/yasha?

Alch had 2/3 components of Yasha in his stash and has the full SnY now.
rip
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 19 2014 21:00 GMT
#3312
So I went back in the replay as requested. Didn't see any of these blatant misses. He was playing a bit passively at times when he didn't know where support was. At 10 minutes he has CS score of 58/14 with invoker having 40/13. So it's about 2 off of where you want to be in mid lane at 10 minutes.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3313
On July 20 2014 06:00 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 05:55 stuchiu wrote:
If you listen carefully you can hear Ayesee scream FROM DOWNTOWN


Aw man, now I'm sad there's no Ayesee in the main event


why ayesee is not here D:


well i am happy to not hear his casting >_> based volvo
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3314
On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote:
Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose


g2 navi c9 an hour ago?
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3315
On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote:
Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose


its more of a core here than carrying, and navi just won with it
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3316
Just gg already, iG. They can't kill a single thing anymore.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3317
get out, IG.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3318
On July 20 2014 06:01 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote:
Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose


g2 navi c9 an hour ago?

It was mid veno on de-facto 3rd position, not safelane veno.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#3319
On July 20 2014 05:58 Seraphic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:
On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430.


Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol


Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor.


Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame>

You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post.


No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale.

I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind.


Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe.

It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during.

You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better.


Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV.


A lot of people have this image of Pros on this level, never missing a CS, like literally at all.

The reality is quite different if you control the camera and focus on one of them. Yes a lot are very good at CSing and doesn't miss much, but not everyone is perfect. Missing CS doesn't matter in mid. For Voker, it's more about levels and not dying which matters most.

P.S. and by the way, tunnel visioning CSing doesn't mean anything.


I didn't mean to make such a big fuss about a point, but I guess how I say things I always get dragged into stuff.

I myself am a mid player, I don't normally just spectate one player, and I guess I tunnel vision into CS'ing, that's my strength... But last hit wise he didn't impress me (quite the opposite), that's all I wanted to say.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 19 2014 21:02 GMT
#3320
Poll: Recommend iG vs. LGD Game 1?

Yes (27)
 
75%

If you have time (5)
 
14%

No (4)
 
11%

36 total votes

Your vote: Recommend iG vs. LGD Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

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