(Vote): Heavy macro, playing like a machine (iloveoov+very well defined timing, Blackman)
(Vote): Pioneer, innovative, artistic, heavy micro (Boxer)
(Vote): Artistic, innovative, unorthodox emphasizing on BO (Ra)
(Vote): Aggressive, all out brute force (July's ZvT, Kingdom's PvP)
(Vote): Hybrid of everything: great micro+macro+timing, sometimes unorthodox/do-or-die (Reach, Nada)
(Vote): By the book (TheMarine, Doggi, Zeus, Xellos, most zergs)
(Vote): ([url=/userpoll/vote.php?poll_id=335&vote=6]Vote[/url]): Cheese (Silent_Control)

ncsix

1370 Posts

May 27 2014 10:15 GMT

#1043

On May 27 2014 19:06 kirsed wrote:
I think it's fine to do these picks Their bans were just garbage. Completely worthless and had zero effect.

this.. you would think to at least ban nyx for carry silencer. he farms too slow.. i dont think even early kills make him 'snowball' the int gain / loss and damage only shows in games with a lot of death, like cis dota, certainly not your far more cautious chinese scene.

Count9

China10928 Posts

May 27 2014 10:15 GMT

#1044

On May 27 2014 19:08 spudde123 wrote:
Well the draft is one thing, but I don't think they lost it because of the draft. It was just that for their draft it was crucial that they use their advantage in 5v5 fights early to get a heavy lead. Now they made crucial mistakes right when they were supposed to be stronger than VG, and the draft was pretty unforgiving for that sort of thing because they really couldn't do anything afterwards against the bkbs

They literally could not lose a single fight early under silencer ult or they lose the game immediately cause VG get time to farm and free aegis. And they didn't, they won every fight early and VG still got aegis cause dire voker medalion etc. They couldn't lose a single fight mid game until they won enough fights for bkb on both troll and bara (and bara was super far away cause offlane) cause if they did VG get BKBs and they almost pulled that off winning every fight except that feed top, but 1 feed with invoker zoo pushing towers and aegis gold was all vg needed to comfortably to get bkbs (they had 1k/2k on doom voker after buying bkbs). And all of those had to be under silencer ult or nyx just hits carapace and walks into bara/troll and VG wreck those 2. Even the first fight with the 3 man epi sand storm C9 almost lost troll and bara.

When your draft needs you to win every fight until an offlane melee hero farms 4k (and that hero doesn't have stacks in the jungle and is named dark seer) and shut down free farm midas voker + doom devour from bkbs and control aegis without ults and only fighting under an ult that has a super long cool down, you're not doing great. Could they have played this better? Of course. Pie not going for useless arcanes when everyone else on his team was going fighting items, envy had 2 completely useless deaths, feeding after bone yolos but C9 had to execute so much better because of a weaker draft to win the game. Anyways, as others pointed out, obviously not a serious draft despite them running bara and troll before.

Laurens

Belgium4544 Posts

May 27 2014 10:21 GMT

#1045

Time to collect my winnings on d2lounge

Eyx

England165 Posts

May 27 2014 10:23 GMT

#1046

What a strange draft, not seen troll mid in a while. Missed the game did the troll do well?

Kirsed

9380 Posts

May 27 2014 10:23 GMT

#1047

I'm fairly certain the last time they ran bara troll before the team was kaipi with rtz cwm too.

takahiro123

Japan79 Posts

May 27 2014 10:25 GMT

#1048

Highlights

ZeaL.

United States5955 Posts

May 27 2014 10:25 GMT

#1049

Shit, Mushi doesnt look so good

Count9

China10928 Posts

May 27 2014 10:26 GMT

#1050

old troll and old bara were actually good heroes (one more than the other). and troll did ok, blinked in and smashed some faces in, then he got bkb and bara didn't so doom just hit r and clicked him while bara got stunned and that was the last we heard of troll

OopsOopsBaby

Singapore3425 Posts

May 27 2014 10:26 GMT

#1051

newbee too stronk