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On September 02 2012 14:03 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:02 dtz wrote:On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1. Dude, you do know that after the prelims were done, Navi and Zenith went bootcamping and they actually shared strategies and stuff. Collaborate to defeat the Chinese so to speak. If they were screwing with everyone, why did they bootcamp with Zenith" I mean Navi has been playing well and Puppey totally outdrafted IG there, but let's not go all conspiracy theories. You think Navi purposely put themselves in the position of almost missing out of the WB? Xboct did not go from a guy who was not able to last hit at the level of top EU carries into a guy who was able to match Burning in fucking farm with AM in two nights of bootcamping with Zenith.
let me get this straight: because this is such an important tournament, Na'Vi looked at the format and decided that they wanted to just barely get into the winner's bracket, and played like shit on purpose? I watched most of their prelim games, and their wins were just as sloppy as their losses. Your only "evidence" is that Na'Vi is playing much better now. It's not like some people/teams excel under high pressure and know when to pull out the big guns.
Face it: Na'Vi had a rough showing early and now that they've got their shit together they're on a roll. Na'Vi fanboys are having a great day, no need to embellish anything.
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hey guys its morphling vs antimage, whoa
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Oh sh!t. Loda is standing up.
this is seriouz.
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On September 02 2012 14:10 dtz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:08 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 14:06 CherryNubCakes wrote:On September 02 2012 14:03 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 14:02 dtz wrote:On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:
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Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game.
Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:
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He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1. Dude, you do know that after the prelims were done, Navi and Zenith went bootcamping and they actually shared strategies and stuff. Collaborate to defeat the Chinese so to speak. If they were screwing with everyone, why did they bootcamp with Zenith" I mean Navi has been playing well and Puppey totally outdrafted IG there, but let's not go all conspiracy theories. You think Navi purposely put themselves in the position of almost missing out of the WB? Xboct did not go from a guy who was not able to last hit at the level of top EU carries into a guy who was able to match Burning in fucking farm with AM in two nights of bootcamping with Zenith. He had a free lane with Lesh harassing the Dark Seer completely off the lane. Burning in the same situation vs. Darer had 3/4 as many denies as he did lasthits in the laning phase and easily surpassed Hvost in GPM later on. Do you remember how bad Hvost played the first day, and in fact the second? Do you remember how bad Dendi played? Look at them now. Farming to Burning's standard, OUTLANING 430. So Hvost still isn't perfect - which Burning is on AM - so what? You think they're playing at the level they were in the first 1-2 days? Game 1 XBOCT was getting destroyed in last hit. Teams have up and down form. Look at CLG? 6-0 then 6-8. Look at Zenith?1-5 then 8-7
Game 1 Puppey laned retardedly so of course he was getting destroyed. I'm talking about what happens in free farm situations because that's when you see how well a player last hits.
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oh wow, loda actually standing with his team during pick/ban phase
MADNESS
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On September 02 2012 14:09 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:09 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
singapore too small to have a province/city -.- They should give like, a street they live in to have more to say
Very meaningless given the short distances, trust me. Singapore should remain unique in that regard 
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I want to see a zenith shadow fiend pick and let Loda play SF, give us dota 1 players a surprise :D
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On September 02 2012 14:12 morlakaix wrote:
I want to see a zenith shadow fiend pick and let Loda play SF, give us dota 1 players a surprise :D
There is no lane for SF to go.
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On September 02 2012 14:12 morlakaix wrote:
I want to see a zenith shadow fiend pick and let Loda play SF, give us dota 1 players a surprise :D
dota2 sf still isnt as good...
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On September 02 2012 14:12 RiZu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:12 morlakaix wrote:
I want to see a zenith shadow fiend pick and let Loda play SF, give us dota 1 players a surprise :D There is no lane for SF to go.
DUAL LANE VOKER AND LET SF SOLO MID
STOP CRUSHING MY DREAMS RIZU
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burning AM again JIZZ IN MY PANTS!
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hyhy morph and ice invoke.
Zenith is in their comfort zone.
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On September 02 2012 14:10 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:03 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 14:02 dtz wrote:On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:
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Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:
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Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1. Dude, you do know that after the prelims were done, Navi and Zenith went bootcamping and they actually shared strategies and stuff. Collaborate to defeat the Chinese so to speak. If they were screwing with everyone, why did they bootcamp with Zenith" I mean Navi has been playing well and Puppey totally outdrafted IG there, but let's not go all conspiracy theories. You think Navi purposely put themselves in the position of almost missing out of the WB? Xboct did not go from a guy who was not able to last hit at the level of top EU carries into a guy who was able to match Burning in fucking farm with AM in two nights of bootcamping with Zenith. let me get this straight: because this is such an important tournament, Na'Vi looked at the format and decided that they wanted to just barely get into the winner's bracket, and played like shit on purpose? I watched most of their prelim games, and their wins were just as sloppy as their losses. Your only "evidence" is that Na'Vi is playing much better now. It's not like some people/teams excel under high pressure and know when to pull out the big guns. Face it: Na'Vi had a rough showing early and now that they've got their shit together they're on a roll. Na'Vi fanboys are having a great day, no need to embellish anything.
I have better evidence than that: Puppey trolling his interviews.
When asked about why he picked Jugg + Enigma second game, he told the interviewer - cause, you know, it was LULZ to pick a Jugg.
Jugg + Enigma is not a strategy you just pull out of a fucking hat. He KNEW what he was doing and Na'Vi 100% practiced this strategy before.
Puppey has been trolling the entire tournament with his interview answers about how bad his team is and how underdogs they are.
Yet they keep on winning, and when they win, they win spectacularly.
These aren't close games. These are stomps. Na'Vi is stomping top Chinese teams.
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sigh...am/morph/sb
gonna head to bed i guess
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On September 02 2012 14:10 kdgns wrote:
hey guys its morphling vs antimage, whoa
Its an asian game, that is standard.
Have fun tuning out for the 30 minute no rush.
Na'Vi only ones showing diversity, prolly why they will win.
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Jungle druid <3
Edit:o no jungle =(
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Oh man, morph+sylla+antimage+ta in the same game, its like the meeting of the carries
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HERE WE GO
ZENITH FIGHTING
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EPT
