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On September 02 2012 14:00 dmnum wrote:
haha "we analyzed it, we discussed it and we had a very long...
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it must be as hard as fuck to translate like that when you lag a bit behind
A better expression could be to say that the iG team all had a heart-to-heart about their loss and got themselves back to a good mental state to face their next games despite the losses that they had. They didn't want that to affect their future performance.
Also I think he mentioned that they felt they out-picked EHOME? Not sure.
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On September 02 2012 14:01 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:59 Jisall wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... The first day of groups puppey said he had food poisening and was puking, and shitting bricks. After the first day they went on a tear. And I enjoy my spot on Na'Vi's dicks. I look forward to you joining the "bandwagon" when Na'Vi go back-to-back. And if Navi loses to LGD and loses to IG in a rematch in the LB? Then what? Dear fucking god. No one is disputing Navi didn't play well. They HAD to to get to the position they did. But they got some serious donations from both DK and IG.
Fanboy making excuses for getting outdrafted and outplayed. Na'Vi #1. Bout to 2-0 LGD back to chino.
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On September 02 2012 14:01 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:59 Ramanujan wrote:On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. There's $1 dollars at stake and you think they intentionally LOSE games and gamble on barely reaching the winner's bracket? Jesus christ. It's not a gamble when you know you're better than your opponents. It's a risk, yes, but no risk = no fucking gain. Na'Vi played a classic gambit, and it's taken them all the way to the WB finals. Their opponents are still fucking clueless. This is why Puppey is a genius.
It's a risk but not a gamble? Okay...
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On September 02 2012 14:00 kdgns wrote:
quick translation:
Hello every I am anderson, Zhou must be enjoying that last match,
Hello everyone I am IG's zhou
Q: We saw you quickly recovered after a loss, how did you do it
A; we did in depth analysis of how we lost and prepared against ehome
Q: We saw morph + brood before against ehome, but it lost, how did you win with the lineup
A: our carries performed better and they were facing a fed tiny
Good luck in future matches
Thanks for the quick translation. The lag for the translations makes it rather annoying to read as they chat. Much better when in full form.
On September 02 2012 14:02 rabidch wrote:past few pages is
Wouldn't be entertaining tournament without some drama and fights 
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On September 02 2012 14:02 dtz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1. Dude, you do know that after the prelims were done, Navi and Zenith went bootcamping and they actually shared strategies and stuff. Collaborate to defeat the Chinese so to speak. If they were screwing with everyone, why did they bootcamp with Zenith" I mean Navi has been playing well and Puppey totally outdrafted IG there, but let's not go all conspiracy theories. You think Navi purposely put themselves in the position of almost missing out of the WB?
Xboct did not go from a guy who was not able to last hit at the level of top EU carries into a guy who was able to match Burning in fucking farm with AM in two nights of bootcamping with Zenith.
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Lewl at all the people who call pro players medicore/suggest better picks/lanes etc.
Should probably play some CM games or tourny games first before you comment on theirs. Just enjoy the game for how it is, analyze but don't start flaming each other for things you don't understand.
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I'm done. The amount of trolling/fanboyism has gone too far. This is what I was afraid of when TL stated they would do official coverage. Pretty sure it's only going to get worse.
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The trolling on the last few pages on this thread is almost as strong as Puppey's.
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On September 02 2012 14:01 Varpulis wrote:
guys I really doubt teams are losing intentionally to hide their strength. I can understand playing standard so as to not give away their strats, but the idea that Na'Vi's poor performance in the prelilms was a calculated plan is pretty far-fetched
I don't know if Navi's play during prelims was terrible on purpose. There's the whole food poisoning thing, which makes sense if you look at their win ratios by day during prelims...their win ratio skyrockets after the first day of prelims.
However, I seriously doubt Navi was nearly as bad as they were claiming before the International. It's quite probable that they decided to throw a couple online games on the off chance that it could help them win a million dollars here.
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wait... are you the same azarkon on gg.net...you are amazing
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On September 02 2012 14:03 superstartran wrote:
I'm done. The amount of trolling/fanboyism has gone too far. This is what I was afraid of when TL stated they would do official coverage. Pretty sure it's only going to get worse.
Or you can stop replying to the trolling because that is the only reason they have to keep talking.
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that translation:
if i feel good about my hands.
/facepalm
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On September 02 2012 14:03 superstartran wrote:
I'm done. The amount of trolling/fanboyism has gone too far. This is what I was afraid of when TL stated they would do official coverage. Pretty sure it's only going to get worse.
Azarkon was here before the announcement. And if you really do care, there's some extensions to filter out posts from specific users.
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When there is no caster bashing, people start bashing the players.
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longdd, rofl, at least someone's confident.
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hello everyon I am anderson, dk just finished an exciting match, they will be facing zenith, this is DK's super
Hello everyone I am DK's super
Q: After these days of matches,how do you feel about this international lan tournament
A: the attitude and atmosphere is different, and people feel like they want to win more
Q: ICEICEICE will be the mid solo you'll be facing, analyze him for us?
A: he is very agressive, If im in a good state, it'll be 50-50
Q: do you have any words for out international fans?
A: please support DK,
Good luck to dk in future rounds
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seriously just let the people who think that navi was metagaming everyone and throwing games to not attract attention alone, jesus
i was happy when i saw that tl was gonna cover dota 2 but lrs are 200% worse/whiny since yesterday -_-
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On September 02 2012 14:03 superstartran wrote:
I'm done. The amount of trolling/fanboyism has gone too far. This is what I was afraid of when TL stated they would do official coverage. Pretty sure it's only going to get worse.
Lol, disagree with me and you are either trolling or a fanboy! Well, was fun so catch you later!
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On September 02 2012 14:04 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:01 Varpulis wrote:
guys I really doubt teams are losing intentionally to hide their strength. I can understand playing standard so as to not give away their strats, but the idea that Na'Vi's poor performance in the prelilms was a calculated plan is pretty far-fetched I don't know if Navi's play during prelims was terrible on purpose. There's the whole food poisoning thing, which makes sense if you look at their win ratios by day during prelims...their win ratio skyrockets after the first day of prelims. However, I seriously doubt Navi was nearly as bad as they were claiming before the International.
Everything Na'Vi has done tells me they've been operating a campaign of disinformation to keep the spot light off of them. The idea that Na'Vi did not prepare well for TI 2 is ridiculous given what they showcased yesterday and today.
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