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I can't believe V1lat is still casting...15 hours yesterday and 13 hours (thus far) today. What a beast!
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On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic...
Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth.
You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament.
Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1.
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On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic...
Yup, although to be fair, puppey is EXTREMELY modest  He has been that way through the entire international. Which is sort of why I like him; he gives so much credit to the Chinese teams that I can't help but support them.
Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth.
You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament.
Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1.
Without any actual evidence for this claim, it is rather pointless. I mean, I can say that you are lying through your teeth and it would be rather equal in claims (as in, not amounting to much).
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On September 02 2012 13:56 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:54 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. .......... Do you understand how dumb you sound right now? Sometimes I wish TL didn't choose to cover DotA 2 for this reason. The fanboyism is incredibly stronger in DotA 2 than it is in SC2. There's theorycrafting... and then there's Azarkoncrafting...
Then Na'vi proceeds to get stomped by LGD and loses to IG in the LB final, Azarkon disappears. Look, no one is disputing that Na'vi can compete. I said it before that the only teams that were gonna have a chance of competing where Zenith and Na'vi against the Chinese teams. But to believe that IG shouldn't have won that fight in the 2nd game, lol. Zhou made a big time mistake of not staying outside of bhole range away from his team to cancel bhole. If he did, that fight looks tremendously different, and Na'vi at best gets about an even trade with a counter ravage.
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On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic...
The first day of groups puppey said he had food poisening and was puking, and shitting bricks. After the first day they went on a tear.
And I enjoy my spot on Na'Vi's dicks. I look forward to you joining the "bandwagon" when Na'Vi go back-to-back.
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I don't believe in these hiding strength shenanigans when you can go out in a bo1 at a moment's notice, back to james.
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On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1.
Yea time for Zenith to reveal their strategy against DK.
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On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament.
There's $1 dollars at stake and you think they intentionally LOSE games and gamble on barely reaching the winner's bracket? Jesus christ.
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ridiculous translations still going stong. mvp of TI2 imo
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quick translation:
Hello every I am anderson, Zhou must be enjoying that last match,
Hello everyone I am IG's zhou
Q: We saw you quickly recovered after a loss, how did you do it
A; we did in depth analysis of how we lost and prepared against ehome
Q: We saw morph + brood before against ehome, but it lost, how did you win with the lineup
A: our carries performed better and they were facing a fed tiny
Good luck in future matches
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but its alll good puppey is going to get his ass kicked by lgd or go on and win the whole thing.
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On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1.
you do realize they were 1 series from dropping to bo1 losers brackets after prelims right?
quit being such a blind fnaboy
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haha "we analyzed it, we discussed it and we had a very long...
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...discussion."
it must be as hard as fuck to translate like that when you lag a bit behind
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On September 02 2012 13:59 IshinShishi wrote:
I don't believe in these hiding strength shenanigans when you can go out in a bo1 at a moment's notice, back to james.
Lol you don't watch many Na'Vi games do you.
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On September 02 2012 13:59 Ramanujan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. There's $1 dollars at stake and you think they intentionally LOSE games and gamble on barely reaching the winner's bracket? Jesus christ.
It's not a gamble when you know you're better than your opponents. It's a risk, yes, but no risk = no fucking gain.
Na'Vi played a classic gambit, and it's taken them all the way to the WB finals. Their opponents are still fucking clueless. This is why Puppey is a genius.
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On September 02 2012 13:59 Jisall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... The first day of groups puppey said he had food poisening and was puking, and shitting bricks. After the first day they went on a tear. And I enjoy my spot on Na'Vi's dicks. I look forward to you joining the "bandwagon" when Na'Vi go back-to-back.
And if Navi loses to LGD and loses to IG in a rematch in the LB? Then what? Dear fucking god. No one is disputing Navi didn't play well. They HAD to to get to the position they did. But they got some serious donations from both DK and IG.
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guys I really doubt teams are losing intentionally to hide their strength. I can understand playing standard so as to not give away their strats, but the idea that Na'Vi's poor performance in the prelilms was a calculated plan is pretty far-fetched
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LOLOL @ hiding str.
who cares. the whole tourney is one giant game. if they're do the meta crap good for them.
if not they're just losing and then turning it around.
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On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:44 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Navi ig game 2 was just ig throwing a fight into hg, xiao8 (captain of lgd) also seemed to think so when I asked him Then Xiao8 doesn't know this game well enough to beat Na'Vi. No game 2 was almost 100% ig fucking up and not navi winning, Zhou basically either forgot about or didn't check that enigma had bkb and lost the game deciding fight off what was an almost perfect initation off a genius smoke by ig Na'Vi only took that fight because they had BKB, and what you - and Xiao8 - doesn't understand is that there is 100% zero way to stop an Enigma spamming BKB from popping it off before you're able to disable him off of a Song because of the mechanics of the game. Siren Song has to be CANCELED before you're able to disable a hero. No human being is capable of coordination so exactly that a person spamming BKBKBKBKBKBKB is not going to get it off before your disable hits. Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc. On September 02 2012 13:47 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:46 superstartran wrote:On September 02 2012 13:42 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:41 Ramanujan wrote:
Ferrari seems pretty mediocre. Terrible puck and tinker vs navi, and now complete freefarm with brood but still nowhere near the cs top. Finally people observe what Ryze observed in the very first day. 430 mediocre. L-O-L. He's not mediocre among China's mediocre mid solos, but he is mediocre among the world's top solos. The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1.
Dude, you do know that after the prelims were done, Navi and Zenith went bootcamping and they actually shared strategies and stuff. Collaborate to defeat the Chinese so to speak. If they were screwing with everyone, why did they bootcamp with Zenith". They also asked to scrim the Chinese but all of the Chinese refused because Navi didn't want to scrim with them before TI2 started.
I mean Navi has been playing well and Puppey totally outdrafted IG there, but let's not go all conspiracy theories. You think Navi purposely put themselves in the position of almost missing out of the WB? I can give you that Puppey/Navi is really good at adjusting their drafts during the tournament. But purposely almost knocking themselves out of the WB with so much money at stake, yeah....
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It's so good to see Azarkon's fanboyism being spotted first thing in this forum.
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