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On September 02 2012 14:19 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:17 Oboeman wrote:
there's all this talk about morphlings and naga sirens and anti-mages and stuff.
what's the deal with the lycanthrope that it is one of the first bans every time? is it even more imba? I see morphling all these games, and he seems to be wrecking. The fact other champs are more important to ban first seems crazy to me.
Champs?
This isn't LoL bro.
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On September 02 2012 14:20 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:18 dtz wrote:On September 02 2012 14:14 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 14:10 Varpulis wrote:On September 02 2012 14:03 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 14:02 dtz wrote:On September 02 2012 13:58 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:57 morlakaix wrote:On September 02 2012 13:52 Azarkon wrote:On September 02 2012 13:48 superstartran wrote:
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Song, initiate, stay outside of bhole range, when he bholes net him and cancel the bhole. Suddenly Na'vi is in really bad position. If LOH doesn't use the bhole in that position he will likely die from autos from illusions, etc.
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The fanboy is strong in this one. You probably think Dendi is #1 solo when he's gotten utterly stomped on numerous occasions this tournament (and has lost multiple times in the WB bracket, he just recovers because LOH/Puppey/AA are carrying the fuck out of him early on). It's obvious to everyone who has eyes by now that Na'Vi was purposefully hiding their excellent form to throw their opponents off in the group stages. They needed to get into the WB but needed to keep attention off of themselves. They accomplished it and mind fucked everyone with better play when the games started mattering. Example: Xboct farming at Burning-esque level in Game 3 vs. iG. iG being completely owned in lanes and farm that game by every one of Na'Vi's players. Are you serious? Puppey admitted they weren't playing as well in the group stages. Please get off navis dick and use some logic... Puppey is lying through his fucking teeth. You guys are naive. I'm serious. There is $1 million dollars at stake here and you think everybody is just going to play it straight up. They're going to be 100% honest in interviews and totally not try to meta-game the tournament. Ridiculous. A magician never reveals his tricks. Na'Vi has been planning this since Day 1. Dude, you do know that after the prelims were done, Navi and Zenith went bootcamping and they actually shared strategies and stuff. Collaborate to defeat the Chinese so to speak. If they were screwing with everyone, why did they bootcamp with Zenith" I mean Navi has been playing well and Puppey totally outdrafted IG there, but let's not go all conspiracy theories. You think Navi purposely put themselves in the position of almost missing out of the WB? Xboct did not go from a guy who was not able to last hit at the level of top EU carries into a guy who was able to match Burning in fucking farm with AM in two nights of bootcamping with Zenith. let me get this straight: because this is such an important tournament, Na'Vi looked at the format and decided that they wanted to just barely get into the winner's bracket, and played like shit on purpose? I watched most of their prelim games, and their wins were just as sloppy as their losses. Your only "evidence" is that Na'Vi is playing much better now. It's not like some people/teams excel under high pressure and know when to pull out the big guns. Face it: Na'Vi had a rough showing early and now that they've got their shit together they're on a roll. Na'Vi fanboys are having a great day, no need to embellish anything. I have better evidence than that: Puppey trolling his interviews. When asked about why he picked Jugg + Enigma second game, he told the interviewer - cause, you know, it was LULZ to pick a Jugg. Jugg + Enigma is not a strategy you just pull out of a fucking hat. He KNEW what he was doing and Na'Vi 100% practiced this strategy before. Puppey has been trolling the entire tournament with his interview answers about how bad his team is and how underdogs they are. Yet they keep on winning, and when they win, they win spectacularly. These aren't close games. These are stomps. Na'Vi is stomping top Chinese teams. Yeah no one is disputing the fact that Jugg+Enigma is a special strat. And puppey has been trolling interviews since the beginning of time. "we are going to pick mortred. then mortred again.mortred is so good you can pick it twice" Doesn't mean that they threw their prelim games on purpose. lol. They were in good form now, in bad form then. Is that so hard? let's see. oh ZENITH is finally including Loda in their drafting phase. They have been throwing their games and not drafting seriously! Now they are in LB and will mount a great comeback because everyone has written them off!!! You see how dumb that argument is? Going from bad form to great form in the same tournament is very rare. Look at Zenith. They had an equally bad Day 1, but do you see them owning LGD / iG? No. They had a bad day because they aren't that great. Na'Vi? The difference between how this team performed on Day 1 and Day 5 is night and day. You believe they managed to do this in two days? Then you are a bigger fanboy than me.
I think teams form can vary from day to day, game to game and it is not a conspiracy or a sinister ploy if that is to happen.
Navi played bad in game 1. Very good in game 2 and 3.
So you think they threw game 1 on purpose?
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Alright imma stop trying to argue with you because we're just cluttering up the forum at this point.
congratulations, you've won the internet argument, now please be quiet so we can all enjoy the last game in peace
*edit that was @Azarkon if it wasn't obvious enough
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On September 02 2012 14:23 Fionn wrote:
So Idra EG and Naniwa Complexity are out to all the Korean Chinese teams, and now Stephano Na'vi, the foreigner hope, is doing well against the Koreans Chinese, so now the SC2 Dota2 community is fighting about how good they really are against the Korean Chinese Overlords.
The communities sure are different.
LR Threads are sure the same different too.
On September 02 2012 14:23 Dubzex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:19 ZeromuS wrote:On September 02 2012 14:17 Oboeman wrote:
there's all this talk about morphlings and naga sirens and anti-mages and stuff.
what's the deal with the lycanthrope that it is one of the first bans every time? is it even more imba? I see morphling all these games, and he seems to be wrecking. The fact other champs are more important to ban first seems crazy to me. Champs? This isn't LoL bro.
Stop being a jerk to people who are obviously new to DotA and trying to figure out what is going on.
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On September 02 2012 14:23 Fionn wrote:
So Idra EG and Naniwa Complexity are out to all the Korean Chinese teams, and now Stephano Na'vi, the foreigner hope, is doing well against the Koreans Chinese, so now the SC2 Dota2 community is fighting about how good they really are against the Korean Chinese Overlords.
The communities sure are different.
No one is disputing Navi is playing well. But anyone that doesn't believe that both DK and IG didn't do some serious donations (in particular DK G1 with their terrible draft/lane setups, and IG G2 with their game throwing fight by Zhou in particular) to Navi really doesn't know much about DotA in general.
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Wow, that BurNing snipe on the Morphling
Surprising how he's only third highest cs on DK, but when he gets Battlefury that'll all change
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On September 02 2012 14:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Stop being a jerk to people who are obviously new to DotA and trying to figure out what is going on.
have to learn the correct words somehow.
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On September 02 2012 14:23 Fionn wrote:
So Idra EG and Naniwa Complexity are out to all the Korean Chinese teams, and now Stephano Na'vi, the foreigner hope, is doing well against the Koreans Chinese, so now the SC2 Dota2 community is fighting about how good they really are against the Korean Chinese Overlords.
The communities sure are different.
this post is perfect
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On September 02 2012 14:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:23 Fionn wrote:
So Idra EG and Naniwa Complexity are out to all the Korean Chinese teams, and now Stephano Na'vi, the foreigner hope, is doing well against the Koreans Chinese, so now the SC2 Dota2 community is fighting about how good they really are against the Korean Chinese Overlords.
The communities sure are different. LR Threads are sure the same different too. Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:23 Dubzex wrote:On September 02 2012 14:19 ZeromuS wrote:On September 02 2012 14:17 Oboeman wrote:
there's all this talk about morphlings and naga sirens and anti-mages and stuff.
what's the deal with the lycanthrope that it is one of the first bans every time? is it even more imba? I see morphling all these games, and he seems to be wrecking. The fact other champs are more important to ban first seems crazy to me. Champs? This isn't LoL bro. Stop being a jerk to people who are obviously new to DotA and trying to figure out what is going on.
just to clarify: this "get your lol out of here, this isnt lol" etc is sometimes used as a joke
i dont know if he was joking though, but i have the feeling he was
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On September 02 2012 14:23 Dubzex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 14:19 ZeromuS wrote:On September 02 2012 14:17 Oboeman wrote:
there's all this talk about morphlings and naga sirens and anti-mages and stuff.
what's the deal with the lycanthrope that it is one of the first bans every time? is it even more imba? I see morphling all these games, and he seems to be wrecking. The fact other champs are more important to ban first seems crazy to me. Champs? This isn't LoL bro.
Stop being a jerk to people who are obviously new to DotA and trying to figure out what is going on.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, this isn't gosugamers 'bro'. Welcome to Dota 2 ZeromuS! I think hard-carries are lower priority in terms of banning because it's mostly the utility heroes that control the early-mid game and any hard carry can become godlike given the space to freefarm and given the opportunity to snag kills.
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I wish Ayassee or whater just do play by play cast. His competitive analysis is atrocious. I grinned my teeth so many times because he said some dumb shits. Leave the analysis to Draskyl.
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Did he just say big fack u?
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What the hell was ice thinking? Just suicides in like a lemming. Looking really bad now =/.
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So im having a weird twitch glitch. If I open anything, any other program, that runs audio, the twitch sound drops by about half and I dont know why.
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I think DK got this.
AM,DS,TA are too fat.
Another teamwipe by DK
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Tier 2 Tower last hit by Antimage. Screw your cs, he says. Ima get kills and towers.
THAT VACUUMS
ROTK MAKING THE PLAYS
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