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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 14 2013 11:48 GMT
#501
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

its actually QUITE decisive considering EG nature as a team as well as PL nature as a hero.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 14 2013 11:48 GMT
#502
--- Nuked ---
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 14 2013 11:48 GMT
#503
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

Then you set a precedent that any DC will be a remake... Are you losing? Fake DC -> get another go at the game... aL have a VERY sizable lead this game.
super gg
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
April 14 2013 11:49 GMT
#504
90 minutes of indecisiveness - "we will decide tomorrow"
Best admins CN
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 14 2013 11:49 GMT
#505
Great since I started watching the streams, suddenly I got internet issues.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 14 2013 11:50 GMT
#506
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1cbk80/getting_dced_and_cant_reconnect_anyone_else/

I wonder if it's the servers.

Although this game was played on USE, looks like EU is fucked too.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
April 14 2013 11:50 GMT
#507
On April 14 2013 20:48 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

So, every time you are losing early game - just pretend to dc and ask for a remake in hope for better laning? Nice solution.


DCs happen all the time and games can resume perfectly fine.
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 11:50:57
April 14 2013 11:50 GMT
#508
On April 14 2013 20:48 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

So, every time you are losing early game - just pretend to dc and ask for a remake in hope for better laning? Nice solution.

as Maelk said, there's no fucking way a team like EG would ever try something so stupid. This kind of comment just comes across as idiotic, honestly; as I understand it, Demon hasn't slept (and it must be like 4-5am there); this situation hasn't benefited anyone
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
April 14 2013 11:50 GMT
#509
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.


Thing is that with MOBA games (cringe) things can change really fast, really drastically. AL had a very clear lead of around about 5k gold and abit less EXP. Say things were remade from minute 0, even with the same draft for both teams, everything changes. Lanes could be changed around, first blood, tower kills, they all will happen differently and aL may find themselves 10k behind at 17 minutes, instead of 5k ahead. Sure they can also be 10k ahead in the remake, but aL has everything to lose and EG everything to gain as it stands if there were to be a full remake.
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
April 14 2013 11:50 GMT
#510
So what's the verdict.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 14 2013 11:51 GMT
#511
On April 14 2013 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1cbk80/getting_dced_and_cant_reconnect_anyone_else/

I wonder if it's the servers.

Although this game was played on USE, looks like EU is fucked too.

Again, servers since Valve went to Hawaii or whatever have been sucking... I don't know why is people surprised that this happened.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
April 14 2013 11:51 GMT
#512
On April 14 2013 20:48 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

Then you set a precedent that any DC will be a remake... Are you losing? Fake DC -> get another go at the game... aL have a VERY sizable lead this game.


Again, this is a server issue. Games are supposed to be resumed. Faking a DC would serve no purpose at all if the servers are working normally.
Administrator
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 14 2013 11:52 GMT
#513
Well, the admins should just give al the win, not like either of the teams really can hope for making it to the final
qyk05328
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany635 Posts
April 14 2013 11:52 GMT
#514
On April 14 2013 20:43 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:41 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
were AL winning before the problem?


Quite a big lead, yeah. The last thing EG said was maelk that it's up to AL and g1 to decide if continue or forfeit, that EG won't object and is sorry for the troubles. G1 should just call it now.

It's unfair to put the opposing team in the situation to either forfeit their hard earned advantage or appear to be scumbags for accepting a defwin. The admin's primary job is to be the sole arbitrator in such situations and not to wash their hands clean of actually taking responsibility.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
April 14 2013 11:52 GMT
#515
On April 14 2013 20:48 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:46 cecek wrote:
It was 17 minues, aL were 5k and 2.5k xp ahead with a PL and a furion. PL had diffusal, tranqs, drums. They were very ahead.

Indeed. wonder what win % brunos stats would give that situation, likely more than 90%

With a PL getting triple kill with a kill on gyro and being like 50cs ahead.

95% we could say?
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
April 14 2013 11:53 GMT
#516
On April 14 2013 20:50 drew-chan wrote:
Thing is that with MOBA games (cringe) things can change really fast, really drastically. AL had a very clear lead of around about 5k gold and abit less EXP. Say things were remade from minute 0, even with the same draft for both teams, everything changes. Lanes could be changed around, first blood, tower kills, they all will happen differently and aL may find themselves 10k behind at 17 minutes, instead of 5k ahead. Sure they can also be 10k ahead in the remake, but aL has everything to lose and EG everything to gain as it stands if there were to be a full remake.


(Any suggestion other than MOBA? Everyone calls them that these days.)

Yeah but same with any kind of game really. A Starcraft regame can turn out to be a completely different game as well, for instance. Anyway, it seems a lot more reasonable to me than giving a freewin. Unless it was almost impossible for the opposite team to pull a comeback, and I don't think it was the case here despite the very, very clear lead.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 14 2013 11:54 GMT
#517
Ahaha, I fucking love you, V1lat.

Vitalii Volochai @v1lat 16m
This game is LEGEN.....wait for it......wait for it.......JUST FUCKING WAIT FOR IT
super gg
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
April 14 2013 11:54 GMT
#518
EG should jsut have been DQ'd anyways for that 1h20 pause
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
April 14 2013 11:54 GMT
#519
On April 14 2013 20:50 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:48 renfree wrote:
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

So, every time you are losing early game - just pretend to dc and ask for a remake in hope for better laning? Nice solution.

as Maelk said, there's no fucking way a team like EG would ever try something so stupid. This kind of comment just comes across as idiotic, honestly; as I understand it, Demon hasn't slept (and it must be like 4-5am there); this situation hasn't benefited anyone

Team like EG aka most cheesy Dota team? Not convinced, sorry.
What can change the nature of a man?
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
April 14 2013 11:54 GMT
#520
On April 14 2013 20:50 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:48 renfree wrote:
On April 14 2013 20:46 PoP wrote:
I don't know much about what's usual for MOBA games but it would seem completely reasonable to remake the game at this point. aL does have a clear advantage but not decisive enough to give them a freewin.

I mean, shit happens. EG team has nothing to do with it.

So, every time you are losing early game - just pretend to dc and ask for a remake in hope for better laning? Nice solution.

as Maelk said, there's no fucking way a team like EG would ever try something so stupid. This kind of comment just comes across as idiotic, honestly; as I understand it, Demon hasn't slept (and it must be like 4-5am there); this situation hasn't benefited anyone
It has benefited EG. They were disjointed. Their strategy had failed. And they were in a unwinnable situation. This only hurt aL.
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