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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 01:07:54
April 26 2013 01:07 GMT
#2881
We're all gamers here. I'm not oblivious to the ping problem. I play FPSs a lot and ping tends to get extremely annoying, but only if the difference is huge.

100 ping is good, 200 to low 300 is manageable. Anything above high 300 gets very annoying to play.

But honestly, this shouldn't be primary discussion in regards to why a team loses. It has to do with the team mentality when they play, and they know it's on a server they won't have great pings. You shouldn't ever play another Pro team with such an negative mentality to begin with.
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 26 2013 01:07 GMT
#2882
I am so pumped up to watch Alliance vs NaVi. Hope they put up a good show.
Oppa feeding style
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2013 01:53 GMT
#2883
simplistic strawman caricatures.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#2884
On April 26 2013 09:32 Belisarius wrote:
Ping is a real, physical advantage that goes to one team over another. That's not a problem in itself; asymmetric advantages are quite normal in sport. However, most sports have better ways of addressing them than "suck it up and don't talk about it".


I can't quite figure out what advantages you are talking about.
Things like Home Field advantage, weather, injuries, player condition are all acknowledged and recognised parts of many sports. These things are just usually not really able for us to equalise. Why can't ping be one of those things - until we find out a way to route data faster than the speed of light or until there's enough money in the scene for LAN competition to become the default.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 02:39:52
April 26 2013 02:38 GMT
#2885
Hmmmm... I'd say Ping is like home turf advantage, I think teams should just deal with it, it's gonna be there, and it CAN be overcome, so whatever.

In countries with short football seasons, teams don't even get to play against every team on their home turf, if they get the toughest opponents as a visitor, well tough luck.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2013 02:59 GMT
#2886
there are different homefield advantages. it often is intangible, such as homecooking effect, crowd effect etc. but when you have an advantage that directly affects the physical parameters of play, for example if your side of the football field is 80 yards long and the other guy's 20 yards, then that game is pretty unfair and won't last long if that unfairness is recognized.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 03:08:22
April 26 2013 03:07 GMT
#2887
People need to stop coming up with silly analogies. Home turf is a purely psychological advantage, and it can be argued for some it's a disadvantage. More than that, the place where you are playing is known before hand, and you rotate where you play per match or per tournament. I would have less of a problem if it was like "each team will play x matches on their server, full matches, not games." Of course sure you would still have the situation where you might be playing harder teams on the easier server, but that way we wouldn't end up with this super swingy matches, coinflip decisions, and potentially certain teams getting the advantage more than others.
Once you Goblak...
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 03:28:04
April 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#2888
On April 26 2013 12:07 teapoted wrote:
People need to stop coming up with silly analogies. Home turf is a purely psychological advantage, and it can be argued for some it's a disadvantage. More than that, the place where you are playing is known before hand, and you rotate where you play per match or per tournament. I would have less of a problem if it was like "each team will play x matches on their server, full matches, not games." Of course sure you would still have the situation where you might be playing harder teams on the easier server, but that way we wouldn't end up with this super swingy matches, coinflip decisions, and potentially certain teams getting the advantage more than others.


Home field advantage is not purely psychological, the most tangible is its affect on officiating.

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/home/news-and-notices/news/press-releases/release-archive/releases-2007/bias-04022007.shtml
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
April 26 2013 04:15 GMT
#2889
Drow and Tusk can be picked in today's matches?
cefiro
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand70 Posts
April 26 2013 05:29 GMT
#2890
Is bamboe gonna play for EG again?
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 26 2013 06:01 GMT
#2891
On April 26 2013 14:29 cefiro wrote:
Is bamboe gonna play for EG again?

yes. but not for bdiz. maelk had a prior engagement of sorts. bdiz should be back
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 06:08:58
April 26 2013 06:08 GMT
#2892
So eg is actually trialing bamboe for both players' slots and depending on how fear/demon/jeyo feel about it, they will decide who to kick... interesting.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
April 26 2013 06:10 GMT
#2893
Brax will apparently be commentating with Ayesee. Don't know if that's enough for me to not go with BTS especially since it starts at 9am my time and I haven't slept yet, not sure if I can handle AC in that state, but worth checking out.
Once you Goblak...
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 26 2013 06:11 GMT
#2894
AC had fear on for his casts last night and I felt that they did a much better job than LD and Lumi.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 26 2013 06:11 GMT
#2895
On April 26 2013 15:08 Dubzex wrote:
So eg is actually trialing bamboe for both players' slots and depending on how fear/demon/jeyo feel about it, they will decide who to kick... interesting.

you read too much into it.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 06:15:34
April 26 2013 06:15 GMT
#2896
On April 26 2013 15:11 Dubzex wrote:
AC had fear on for his casts last night and I felt that they did a much better job than LD and Lumi.
AC does a fine job but far too intense for daily viewing for me, especially in the morning.
Once you Goblak...
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 26 2013 06:45 GMT
#2897
On April 26 2013 15:11 Dubzex wrote:
AC had fear on for his casts last night and I felt that they did a much better job than LD and Lumi.

Damn, I shoulda checked who AC's co-caster was. If it's LD and Lumi again I'll definitely have to watch AC, I like LD's casting a lot but I'm really not a fan of Lumi's. He doesn't seem to say much for how much he talks, and he tends to try to go off on tangents(sometimes interesting ones) right before big teamfights, leading to LD kinda awkwardly interrupting him. Maybe they just lack chemistry or something. LD with Winter or really any pro is pretty great.

Not the biggest deal though, I'm just glad to have good options to choose from and good games to watch :D. EG has been looking a lot better recently, I'm interested in how they'll fair against Fnatic. I suppose we could run into more server issues but hopefully we'll get some good games regardless.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 26 2013 07:08 GMT
#2898
i dont think these games are being played live. DeMoN usually doesnt stream an hour before they play. CONSPIRACY?!
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 07:10:42
April 26 2013 07:09 GMT
#2899
On April 26 2013 15:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:08 Dubzex wrote:
So eg is actually trialing bamboe for both players' slots and depending on how fear/demon/jeyo feel about it, they will decide who to kick... interesting.

you read too much into it.

I actually wouldn't be surprised, though it's obviously just idle speculation. At the very least, they've attempted to move Fear into a support role (and he's very good at it), but Maelk and Bdiz aren't suitable for carries, and frankly Demon is doing very well as solo-mid.

Will anything come of this? Who knows. But if they feel Fear is best fit into support, then they'll need someone else to take over the Carry position.

On April 26 2013 16:08 Spicy_Curry wrote:
i dont think these games are being played live. DeMoN usually doesnt stream an hour before they play. CONSPIRACY?!


Pretty sure Demon and Fear have streamed before their G-1 matches. In fact...I'd venture to say Demon has streamed before all of them during this qualifier.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 26 2013 07:12 GMT
#2900
On April 26 2013 15:45 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:11 Dubzex wrote:
AC had fear on for his casts last night and I felt that they did a much better job than LD and Lumi.

Damn, I shoulda checked who AC's co-caster was. If it's LD and Lumi again I'll definitely have to watch AC, I like LD's casting a lot but I'm really not a fan of Lumi's. He doesn't seem to say much for how much he talks, and he tends to try to go off on tangents(sometimes interesting ones) right before big teamfights, leading to LD kinda awkwardly interrupting him. Maybe they just lack chemistry or something. LD with Winter or really any pro is pretty great.

Not the biggest deal though, I'm just glad to have good options to choose from and good games to watch :D. EG has been looking a lot better recently, I'm interested in how they'll fair against Fnatic. I suppose we could run into more server issues but hopefully we'll get some good games regardless.

I like Lumi + Godz better than LD + Lumi, Godz and Lumi have better chemistry.

LD + Winter OTP best casting team ever tho
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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