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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Thezzphai
Germany1145 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:32 MinoMoto wrote: Not a single gang or rotation on NaVi, whey playing to passive Because treant and there's a DK mid. They can't kill anyone. If treant had his living armor up for dendi mid during the first gank he'd probably have lived though. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:32 MinoMoto wrote: Not a single gang or rotation on NaVi, whey playing to passive Thats the problem with Treant+Rubick, you can't actually gank or rotate very well because you have shit for damage and only 1 disable. | ||
rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:33 Itsmedudeman wrote: Because treant and there's a DK mid. They can't kill anyone. If treant had his living armor up for dendi mid during the first gank he'd probably have lived though. yep. and nobody tped on the second or third (kuroky -_-) | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19349 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:34 rabidch wrote: yep. and nobody tped on the second or third (kuroky -_-) I am not sure TPs would help on the third but the second was like, dive beyond t1's and not a single TP. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:33 Kipsate wrote: Thats the problem with Treant+Rubick, you can't actually gank or rotate very well because you have shit for damage and only 1 disable. You gotta dive with Treant, and pick diving heroes. I think they wanted Dendi to dive, but Dendi got shut down. There weren't another hero on Na'Vi that's capable of diving. That's why Weaver gets picked with Treant. Blood Seeker is also a hero that works pretty well with Treant, but easier to counter. | ||
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allen_ami
China1392 Posts
hope to see it again today XD | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:32 MinoMoto wrote: Not a single gang or rotation on NaVi, whey playing to passive You don't really need to gank or rotate in the laning phase when you have Treant. They would have won the laning phase outright if Dendi and Funnik hadn't overestimated just how much protection living armor gets you. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19349 Posts
:D :D :D :D | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:35 Kipsate wrote: I am not sure TPs would help on the third but the second was like, dive beyond t1's and not a single TP. he was also totally safe if he'd just stayed in meld on the third tp's would have just gotten anyone but gyro killed with nothing accomplished On June 25 2013 19:35 Azarkon wrote: You gotta dive with Treant, and pick diving heroes. I think they wanted Dendi to dive, but Dendi got shut down. There weren't another hero on Na'Vi that's capable of diving. That's why Weaver gets picked with Treant. Blood Seeker is also a hero that works pretty well with Treant, but easier to counter. goblak thinks pretty much the complete opposite (you can/should play really passive and wait for the enemy to overcommit, then abuse armor and punish it) trying to force it is where na'vi cemented their loss | ||
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BuLba
United States1585 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:36 Diavlo wrote: You don't really need to gank or rotate in the laning phase when you have Treant. They would have won the laning phase outright if Dendi and Funnik hadn't overestimated just how much protection living armor gets you. to be fair, funnik wasnt out of position or anything. with tree armor spammed on u, u have to play aggressive in lane even if it's a waste . enchant is a good pick vs tree though i think the mid ganks won them the game more than anything. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:36 icystorage wrote: how can you see it again when LoH isnt on navi anymore :D :D :D :D That wasn't a game LoH was going to salvage. Na'Vi was just playing sloppy after a long travel. Give them a break; they're going to adjust, hopefully next game. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:35 Azarkon wrote: You gotta dive with Treant, and pick diving heroes. I think they wanted Dendi to dive, but Dendi got shut down. There weren't another hero on Na'Vi that's capable of diving. That's why Weaver gets picked with Treant. Blood Seeker is also a hero that works pretty well with Treant, but easier to counter. Diving a Dragon Knight is a bit risky considering that there is an Enchantress on the team(who has only done ganks on her side of the map so you have no idea where she is. Dragon Knight is Tanky, can stun you under your tower(Living armor is not invurnability). And then there is the potential for a Visage TP in as well with Grave and Soul Assumption no way Dendi could risk diving. On June 25 2013 19:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote: to be fair, funnik wasnt out of position or anything. with tree armor spammed on u, u have to play aggressive in lane even if it's a waste . enchant is a good pick vs tree though i think the mid ganks won them the game more than anything. I think LGD.Int did this too, play a Jungling hero like Ench or Chen, be greedy and either break even or win another lane. Tree pretty much has to win the laning stage or risk falling behind. Basically the Ench nullified the Treant and Treant has to get ahead in the laning stage because he doesn't offer you that much in the mid to lategame. | ||
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MinoMoto
Latvia107 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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BuLba
United States1585 Posts
On June 25 2013 19:37 Kipsate wrote: Diving a Dragon Knight is a bit risky considering that there is an Enchantress on the team(who has only done ganks on her side of the map so you have no idea where she is. Dragon Knight is Tanky, can stun you under your tower(Living armor is not invurnability). And then there is the potential for a Visage TP in as well with Grave and Soul Assumption no way Dendi could risk diving. I think LGD.Int did this too, play a Jungling hero like Ench or Chen, be greedy and either break even or win another lane. Tree pretty much has to win the laning stage or risk falling behind. Basically the Ench nullified the Treant and Treant has to get ahead in the laning stage because he doesn't offer you that much in the mid to lategame. Liquid`BuLba: is this how Liquid`BuLba: u play vs this shit Liquid`BuLba: get an ench Liquid`BuLba: or chen? LGD.Pajkatt.int: yes Liquid`BuLba: so Liquid`BuLba: armor does nothing LGD.Pajkatt.int: get greedy LGD.Pajkatt.int: and get creeps to own offlane or mid Liquid`BuLba: vs creeps Liquid`BuLba: ? LGD.Pajkatt.int: and chen /ench Liquid`BuLba: what do u mean Liquid`BuLba: get greedy Liquid`BuLba: as in spec? LGD.Pajkatt.int: greedy as in LGD.Pajkatt.int: spec LGD.Pajkatt.int: sf LGD.Pajkatt.int: alchemist LGD.Pajkatt.int: any LGD.Pajkatt.int: greedy carry LGD.Pajkatt.int: vs treant | ||
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