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On August 09 2013 14:45 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:43 babylon wrote:On August 09 2013 14:41 GreyKnight wrote:On August 09 2013 14:39 Rulker wrote:On August 09 2013 14:39 hatoblue wrote:
If Yao hadn't played so badly that would've been a win for LGD 100% What did Yao do wrong? Everything. Comparing his Magnus to Super's just a few games before was a bit painful ... is Yao not good on Magnus? :/ He's actually known for his Magnus, which doesn't make this any better. I wouldn't say Xiao8 is famous for his Prophet tho. LGD did GREAT with Xiao8 mid and Yao offlane with Xiao8 controlling tempo for months now. Now they pull this shit for 4 games in a row.
Sadly, I disagree. Xiao8's prophet was imo the best prophet of TI2 in addition to LongDD. To see no Chinese players playing good prophets these days is indeed disappointing.
Xiao8 as a mid player focuses on ganking mids (Beastmaster, NS, Nyx) that scale off if momentum isn't found early. True, he also plays DK but Yao has a better DK than Xiao8. Anyways, LGD's big problem this tournament has been their predictability and emphasis on 4p1. For some reason, Xioa8 et co refuse to adapt to the split push/mass farm metagame.
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Now iG needs to pick BH and its the same draft Navi did against Orange :D
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Zenith have balls of steel. Invoker and now Slark in Bo1 elimination matches.
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Oh gosh... Another Chen/Naix/Puck game... Probably almost 10 games like this.
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On August 09 2013 14:49 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:47 Erasme wrote:
TC carried that game hard, kudos to him. what? TC(and everybody in liquid) played great but bulba was clearly the mvp his performance in this last game might be the best one ever by a clockwerk in professional dota 2
without tc's start, bulbas hook wouldve been standard bulbas hook. You know, killing his team and himself if they try to follow up.
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On August 09 2013 14:48 A Wet Shamwow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:45 r.Evo wrote:On August 09 2013 14:43 babylon wrote:On August 09 2013 14:41 GreyKnight wrote:On August 09 2013 14:39 Rulker wrote:On August 09 2013 14:39 hatoblue wrote:
If Yao hadn't played so badly that would've been a win for LGD 100% What did Yao do wrong? Everything. Comparing his Magnus to Super's just a few games before was a bit painful ... is Yao not good on Magnus? :/ He's actually known for his Magnus, which doesn't make this any better. I wouldn't say Xiao8 is famous for his Prophet tho. LGD did GREAT with Xiao8 mid and Yao offlane with Xiao8 controlling tempo for months now. Now they pull this shit for 4 games in a row. Because they wanted a magnus, but Xiao8 is the weaker mag on the team.
Except with that draft and those lanes they could have run Mag offlane just fine. They put themselves into this position with the Furion pick, though. Which is their problem because they shouldn't draft themselves into that position.
LGD doesn't work with Yao mid anymore. It worked at TI2 because the game was slower and allowed for a mid who didn't necessarily direct the tempo and made up for it with teamfight presence (e.g. Yao Invoker mid at TI2). But the game right now demands a mid who has control and directs the midgame game flow. People give LGD crap for playing 4-protects-1, but quite honestly THIS is why they don't have midgame control. Not because they're putting everything on Sylar because Sylar is playing carries with midgame presence and has excellent execution in midgame fights when he comes to them. It's because having Yao mid fundamentally puts the team on a defensive posture when Yao doesn't gank, doesn't apply pressure, and who is a player whose strength does not lie in his sense of game flow like Xiao8 is.
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Woo Dota doesn't have booth babes. It has booth bros! :D
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On August 09 2013 14:37 Ruccola wrote:
Horrible play and drafting by LGD. 4 protect 1 with Alch and Magnus is not ideal in the current meta.
The funny thing is that you make it sound like that wasn't a standard LGD draft. Maybe you think they play/draft horribly all the time?
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The beast from the east from the international 2
ya that does kinda sum it up
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On August 09 2013 14:49 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:48 Daralii wrote:On August 09 2013 14:45 Sabu113 wrote:
Any typical/standard things to expect as bans? (sort of characters to get rid of?) Wisp(against Western teams), Outworld Devourer, Batrider, Dark Seer, and Life Stealer are the universal top bans. Are these cornerstones to popular "builds"/strat trees or just super powerful characters in unique ways? edit: answeredish Thanks guys!
Both.
wisp = super strong to abuse small positional mistakes, great snowball potential
OD = super strong laner that ruins a lot of things for your draft
bat = super strong laner, initiator and super flexible
DS = super strong laner (you get the picture), puts insane pressure on supports and is a cornerstone for AoE teamfight
Naix = free BKB, strong laner, very strong midgame with very few items
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On August 09 2013 14:50 AimForTheBushes wrote: Yeah, it's really setting the tone - I hope they keep these clips for future tournaments.. it's Soul Calibur-level epic.. (DEFENDING CHAMPIONS... INVICTUS GAMING!!) To be honest, Valve has really stepped up expectations for big esport events all around (the professional reporter/interviewer, the stage, the production, etc).. makes stuff like MLG and Dreamhack look like they're put on by amateurs.
Yeah, Valve's production value is amazing. Makes the whole experience outside of the games awesome and entertaining.
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OKAY INVICTUS GODS
LETS DO IT !
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On August 09 2013 14:49 BurningSera wrote:I see some serious faces in iG. I think they are coming back. + Show Spoiler +
i feel like none of the asian teams came with anything new to ti3. they've been playing just like they've been playing in the last month when compared to the western teams who have brought a ton of new strats and styles.
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