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On August 09 2013 10:31 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:30 EnvyUK wrote:On August 09 2013 10:28 MrCon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:25 TheYango wrote:
Quite simply, 30 minutes of this game came out of this Rapier buy. It got IG the win, but honestly, that Rapier is probably the sole reason why DK refused to end--because having a Rapier completely nullifies 10k+ of gold disadvantage (it gives you 5 Sacred Relics of damage for ~6k gold) as well as 2 lanes rax down because winning a fight with Rapier basically lets you instantly throne. They refused to end way earlier tho, what was the score, something like 17-5 with all 6 tower down, AC on bear versus nothing but mek on OD and linken on weaver, they had like 25mn before the rapier to take a lane. Both Ferrari and Zhou had the worst early game possible with multiple deaths each. Exactly, it's not like they were being aggressive and changed that style upon seeing the rapier. Their play style hardly changed when DR was seen. No, before then it was that they couldn't push. Again, because of the lane pressure. After the rapier, they had the lane pressure under control, but refused to push the 3rd lane.
It appears to me that DK just missed their opportunity and couldn't do shit anymore without IG making a mistake or piling up cheeses on every hero. Weaver has really good synergy with rapier just like gyrocopter and DK's lineups didn't possess a single hero which is suited for SUPERSUPERSUPER late game like rapier carrying heroes. 12 slotted Lone Druid sounds terrifying but we all witnessed how easy a six slotted bear is dispatched. DK was dead in the water beyond 60-70 minutes and just hoped on IG doing a mistake, which they didn't. They played it patient and won.
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On August 09 2013 10:37 Kuroeeah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
Reverse Polarity is the best teamfight disable ult in the entire game, right? arguable.
Black Hole I guess? 0.25s and a bit bigger radius in exchange for channeling ;S
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On August 09 2013 10:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:37 Zealously wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 babylon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 EnumaAvalon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:30 babylon wrote:
what is rp? D: New?  Welcome to DotA 2! thanks! just started watching this weekend. ppl have been nice with answering my noob questions. rp is reverse polarity, Magnus's ult I think rp is roleplay, where zeus rushes mjollnir
Lich with Shivas Skadi #1
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On August 09 2013 10:35 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:33 Frost wrote:The game was lacking action, but it was by no means "terrible", "dumb", "boring" as some of the people here put it. I don't know if many people watching that are posting these remarks are just not well-experienced enough, but seriously read these two posts since they explain better than I can why Ayesee acting like he did is fucked up and also why game turned out like as it did. On August 09 2013 10:25 TheYango wrote:
Quite simply, 30 minutes of this game came out of this Rapier buy. It got IG the win, but honestly, that Rapier is probably the sole reason why DK refused to end--because having a Rapier completely nullifies 10k+ of gold disadvantage (it gives you 5 Sacred Relics of damage for ~6k gold) as well as 2 lanes rax down because winning a fight with Rapier basically lets you instantly throne. On August 09 2013 10:20 CountChocula wrote:
This. You can't call a game stupidly wrong just because the game seems different from the way most Western Dota games go. The game has a lot of playstyles you can run and it's ridiculous to use "entertainment value" as a metric when $2.8M is on the line.
The fault of Ayesee's commentary is that instead of taking the opportunity to enlighten a crowd ignorant about Eastern Dota like Synderen usually does as a student of the game, he had the effect of egging the crowd on as if there were something wrong with the way the game was being played. Problem is there are only a handful of people as knowledgeable as Yango and none of them cast. Maybe if Synderen was casting he could have explained why the teams were playing like they were but with the casting lineup we have there was just no real hope of that.
I would explain in LR, but i'd be repeating what Yango said except his words are more clear 
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omg why DK just decide to donate a rosh?
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On August 09 2013 10:37 Kuroeeah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
Reverse Polarity is the best teamfight disable ult in the entire game, right? arguable.
+1 Debatable, but amongs top5 i'd say
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More free farm in this situation > Roshan
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On August 09 2013 10:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:37 Zealously wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 babylon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 EnumaAvalon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:30 babylon wrote:
what is rp? D: New? Welcome to DotA 2! thanks! just started watching this weekend. ppl have been nice with answering my noob questions. rp is reverse polarity, Magnus's ult I think rp is roleplay, where zeus rushes mjollnir
Ragnarök into gg probably
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On August 09 2013 10:38 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
Reverse Polarity is the best teamfight disable ult in the entire game, right? Ehh. Black hole lasts longer, Ravage is bigger AOE, and both deal more damage. its entirely up to what you want out of the disable ulti.
I think if you asked me which ult I'd rather have on a hero I'm creating I'd probably say ravage
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everytime LD get a aegis a puppy dies
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On August 09 2013 10:38 DV G wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:37 Kuroeeah wrote:On August 09 2013 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
Reverse Polarity is the best teamfight disable ult in the entire game, right? arguable. +1 Debatable, but amongs top5 i'd say
With the smaller radius, yeah. Really debatable.
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sry, league player. Unless a team was super behind, they would never give up a "baron" (Similar to roshan), for free like that. Why would DK not try to contest that, especially given their teamfight potential that I've seen up til now?
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On August 09 2013 10:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 09 2013 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
Reverse Polarity is the best teamfight disable ult in the entire game, right? Ehh. Black hole lasts longer, Ravage is bigger AOE, and both deal more damage. its entirely up to what you want out of the disable ulti. I think if you asked me which ult I'd rather have on a hero I'm creating I'd probably say ravage
i'd vote for entangle
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On August 09 2013 10:37 Namunelbo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:33 Frost wrote:The game was lacking action, but it was by no means "terrible", "dumb", "boring" as some of the people here put it. I don't know if many people watching that are posting these remarks are just not well-experienced enough, but seriously read these two posts since they explain better than I can why Ayesee acting like he did is fucked up and also why game turned out like as it did. On August 09 2013 10:25 TheYango wrote:
Quite simply, 30 minutes of this game came out of this Rapier buy. It got IG the win, but honestly, that Rapier is probably the sole reason why DK refused to end--because having a Rapier completely nullifies 10k+ of gold disadvantage (it gives you 5 Sacred Relics of damage for ~6k gold) as well as 2 lanes rax down because winning a fight with Rapier basically lets you instantly throne. On August 09 2013 10:20 CountChocula wrote:
This. You can't call a game stupidly wrong just because the game seems different from the way most Western Dota games go. The game has a lot of playstyles you can run and it's ridiculous to use "entertainment value" as a metric when $2.8M is on the line.
The fault of Ayesee's commentary is that instead of taking the opportunity to enlighten a crowd ignorant about Eastern Dota like Synderen usually does as a student of the game, he had the effect of egging the crowd on as if there were something wrong with the way the game was being played. Not everyone on the internet appreciate these players' craft, thousand of hours spent, all the hindsight and thought process... Nope, let's just complain and fill our blood lust.
To be fair, last year's IG vs LGD people were complaining as boring and I enjoyed it, also Alliance vs LGD people said it was boring and I enjoyed it, but last game was more or less objectively boring, without the chants of the crowd I would have tuned out to sleep I think.
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yeah ravage is probably the best, because of the range
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ferrari stunned the guy who didn't have tp mana =(
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On August 09 2013 10:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:37 Zealously wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 babylon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 EnumaAvalon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:30 babylon wrote:
what is rp? D: New? Welcome to DotA 2! thanks! just started watching this weekend. ppl have been nice with answering my noob questions. rp is reverse polarity, Magnus's ult I think rp is roleplay, where zeus rushes mjollnir
That would be terrible role-playing, they're not even from the same mythology!
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On August 09 2013 10:38 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
Reverse Polarity is the best teamfight disable ult in the entire game, right? Ehh. Black hole lasts longer, Ravage is bigger AOE, and both deal more damage. its entirely up to what you want out of the disable ulti.
Ravage doesn't go through bkb. My vote is on RP.
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On August 09 2013 10:40 Badboyrune wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:37 opterown wrote:On August 09 2013 10:37 Zealously wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 babylon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:34 EnumaAvalon wrote:On August 09 2013 10:30 babylon wrote:
what is rp? D: New? Welcome to DotA 2! thanks! just started watching this weekend. ppl have been nice with answering my noob questions. rp is reverse polarity, Magnus's ult I think rp is roleplay, where zeus rushes mjollnir That would be terrible role-playing, they're not even from the same mythology!
it's fantasy, all mythology is the same mythology.
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When Rubick steals Spectre Q, can he move through walls or will he get slowed?
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