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[TI3] Playoffs Day 5 - Page 205

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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 11 2013 23:09 GMT
#4081
2gd the best shot firer
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 11 2013 23:09 GMT
#4082
Maelk hilarious rofl
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 11 2013 23:09 GMT
#4083
I hope they play the full 5 games so I can watch when I get up again.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 23:09 GMT
#4084
wtf Maelk. On the moment he did that he knew it was wrong lololol.
I had a good night of sleep.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 23:10:11
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4085
On August 12 2013 08:07 Tien wrote:
Lol at the whiners and complainers from fanbois.

TI3 delivering the best entertaining dota ever.


Wut?
This year has easily been the worst international(games/hype/storyline ofc, production has been the best obv)
bearcatter
Profile Joined June 2010
United States171 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4086
On August 12 2013 08:07 hyptonic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:05 DDie wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks



Because this game is about pleasing the crowd and making you happy, not for, let's say, 1.5 kk dolars.

no its fine that their playing with their best heroes and with what they think will let them win, i'd do the same.

its just boring to watch


Alliance and Na'Vi haven't been boring at all to watch. I don't know what you have been watching
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4087
That was some smooth burn delivery by 2gd
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4088
I like this 2GD. He always ends with a mild, grandfatherly smile.
Religion: Buckethead
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4089
On August 12 2013 08:09 mutantmagnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:57 Grettin wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:56 WindWolf wrote:
Lol @ixmike's twitter


[image loading]



Even though it got a smirk out of me that lacked class. Hopefully no one forwards that to Taeja.

No one cares really.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4090
On August 12 2013 08:04 Shikyo wrote:
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On August 12 2013 08:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 12 2013 08:02 Shikyo wrote:
On August 12 2013 08:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:58 Shikyo wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:57 Abominous wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:55 Lachrymose wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:45 dtz wrote:
For those complaining about the format, the way to see it is this way.

The whole playoffs were not to pick the winner. It is to pick the top 2 teams who will play in a grand final. It's a 2 separate stage in the tournament.

So there are actually 3 stages in the tournament which is groupstage, playoff, grand finals.Each stage is separate.

Teams who did better in group stage didn't start with a 1-0 advantage in the playoff as well despite winning more games.




Is this serious?

Yeah, they didn't get a 1-0 advantage, they got a 2-0 advantage. They started in the upper bracket and other teams started in the lower bracket, the equivalent in the format of getting 2-0'd.

There was a huge advantage to doing well in the prelims, it's really weird that you try to make it sound like there wasn't.

Yeah, a team with a 9-5 record (lets not count the tiebreaker) was in the exact same part of the bracket against a team with 14-0.

That team was seeded worse. If you're ever played in a tournament you might be aware that it's a gigantic disadvantage to play vs #1 seed first instead of vs the #8 seed.

How about the 3 teams who finished 8-6 and only 1 had to play against Na`vi, the top seed?

Alliance should have been the top seed. 3 worst teams play vs the 3 best teams. You cannot be serious?

? I don't think you understand how this tournament works.

If Alliance went 14-0 in the qualifiers, they should have been the top seed for the bracket.

Was this not the case, then?

There are two top seeds. Alliance and Na`vi who got to pick their opponents. After they pick their opponents the seeds don't matter at all, so in this scenario, the only thing that matters is placing 1st and finishing top 4 in your group.

For some reason it seems people can't get it through their heads that different tournaments have different formats and give different advantages. Which one is the correct advantage? You play a huge amount of games in group stages - 14 games. But even after going 0-14 MUFC were still in the tournament and not eliminated. And also on the flip side alliance went 14-0 and the only advantage they got was choosing LGD.CN as their opponent with everything else being even. Don't see anyone complaining about that.

Let's take a look at G-1 league format. Group stages gave a HUGE advantage. You played 5 games and where you place determined where you were placed in the playoff bracket with the top seed advancing directly to the finals.

Now let's translate this into playoff advantages. Winner's bracket gives a distinct advantage obviously, but being "eliminated" only gives the disadvantage of having to play an extra opponent.

Which one of these were objectively most "fair"?
LeCruci
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania403 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 23:11:41
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4091
Na'Vi will 3-0 Alliance, you heard it here first. Puppy got smth special prepared and then Alliance will be thrown off.
Furthermore if that happens i might get some sleep before going to work.
Brutus
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4092
I didnt catch what was said before the middle finger, what was said?
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4093
Damn I missed whatever Maelk said this time. Can someone summarize?
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
August 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#4094
On August 12 2013 08:07 r.Evo wrote:
Instead of whining about Navi, China, Alliance, Pudge or the format can we please go back to fucking enjoying TI3? -__-

too much downtime, goddamnit give me me finals already I'm entitled to it
bearcatter
Profile Joined June 2010
United States171 Posts
August 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#4095
On August 12 2013 08:10 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:07 Tien wrote:
Lol at the whiners and complainers from fanbois.

TI3 delivering the best entertaining dota ever.


Wut?
This year has easily been the worst international(games/hype/storyline ofc, production has been the best obv)


The only boring games have been when two Chinese teams face off against each other
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#4096
alliance winning with someone so subpar at killing creeps as their carrier really makes one think about how dota should be played.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#4097
Got up to my desk after 5 minutes of laughing at this.
http://i.imgur.com/49emZ7G.png
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#4098
On August 12 2013 08:06 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:02 Shikyo wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:58 dtz wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:55 Lachrymose wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:45 dtz wrote:
For those complaining about the format, the way to see it is this way.

The whole playoffs were not to pick the winner. It is to pick the top 2 teams who will play in a grand final. It's a 2 separate stage in the tournament.

So there are actually 3 stages in the tournament which is groupstage, playoff, grand finals.Each stage is separate.

Teams who did better in group stage didn't start with a 1-0 advantage in the playoff as well despite winning more games.




Is this serious?

Yeah, they didn't get a 1-0 advantage, they got a 2-0 advantage. They started in the upper bracket and other teams started in the lower bracket, the equivalent in the format of getting 2-0'd.

There was a huge advantage to doing well in the prelims, it's really weird that you try to make it sound like there wasn't.


That group stage is to pick 8 teams to be put in Upper Bracket and 8 teams to be put in Lower Bracket.

This playoff is to put 2 teams in the Grand Finals and 14 teams to be eliminated.

Between teams in the lower bracket, there is no score advantage despite some teams winning more than the others ( IG vs DK started 0-0 despite IG being 8-6 and DK 10-4).

Therefore in the grand finals there should be no score advantage also.

of course there are other non score advantages like being able to pick your opponents or being well rested and are able to save strats and analyze more of your opponents.

If the formats were similiar, the second qualifiers should put one half of the teams in the winners' bracket and one half in the losers' bracket for the grand finals.

Which is how it would go in a properly done tournament format. As you see, doing well in the qualifiers gives you an advantage. In a proper format, that is.


The concept of the formats are the same. I think the difference is just the number. 8 + 8 then 2 + 14. I am not exactly sure what you are saying so I'm sorry if i misunderstood.

But the second qualifiers( i assume you mean playoffs?) put 2 in Grand Final and 14 in elimination.. Between teams in the same stage ( in this case Grand Finals) they start with the same score. Just like in previous round , teams in WB and LB all start with the same score despite varying group stage performance.

The first qualifier put half of the teams into the winners' bracket(8) and half in the losers' bracket(8).

The second qualifier should put half of the teams(Alliance) to winners' bracket and half(Na'Vi) to the losers' bracket.

If the concept was similiar, that is.


Unless you're actually suggesting that because winners' bracket teams started from 0-0 against each other and losers' bracket teams started from 0-0 against each other there were no differences between the teams that ended up in the winners' bracket and the losers' bracket, which would just be absolutely hilarious.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#4099
On August 12 2013 08:10 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:07 Tien wrote:
Lol at the whiners and complainers from fanbois.

TI3 delivering the best entertaining dota ever.


Wut?
This year has easily been the worst international(games/hype/storyline ofc, production has been the best obv)

Too true.

It's still good, but last year was amazing.

What was TI1 like?
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#4100
On August 12 2013 08:09 mutantmagnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:57 Grettin wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:56 WindWolf wrote:
Lol @ixmike's twitter


[image loading]



Even though it got a smirk out of me that lacked class. Hopefully no one forwards that to Taeja.

but ixmike is a big deal!
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