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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 04:22:05
November 25 2013 04:21 GMT
#5381
On November 25 2013 13:16 Mohdoo wrote:
this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG.

bone seems pretty chill about how things played out judging by his twitter
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
November 25 2013 04:21 GMT
#5382
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.
Envy fan since NTH.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 25 2013 04:22 GMT
#5383
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


Make a 6 man team. Problem solved.
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hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
November 25 2013 04:22 GMT
#5384
On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.



You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?


Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game?

There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final.

Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed


Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours?

Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.


It's like admitting DK would lose in a long bo5.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
November 25 2013 04:23 GMT
#5385
On November 25 2013 13:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


Make a 6 man team. Problem solved.
There's no problem. RTZ can't play full-time.
Once you Goblak...
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
November 25 2013 04:23 GMT
#5386
On November 25 2013 13:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


Make a 6 man team. Problem solved.

^
Use RTZ, Bone, Sing as situations call for
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 25 2013 04:23 GMT
#5387
Poll: Recommend Speed vs DK game 3?

Yes (116)
 
94%

No (6)
 
5%

If you have time (2)
 
2%

124 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Speed vs DK game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



If you haven't voted yet, please do! I know more ppl than this watched the finals!
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 04:25:28
November 25 2013 04:24 GMT
#5388
On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.



You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?


Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game?

There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final.

Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed


Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours?

Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.


A) The pressure of playing in the semis and finals are definitely more fatiguing than normal practice.

B) Even a little bit of fatigue, slightest delay on reaction, slightest misjudgement will get punished at such high level of game.

C) Any professional athlete would want to be as fresh and rested as possible before such a big match.

D) This is not an attack on Speed gaming, stop being so hostile and defensive like your little ego has anything to do with them. This was an amazing series regardless.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
November 25 2013 04:24 GMT
#5389
Damn the initiations by speed were fantastic. I think teams should start to get diffusal more to counter hexes. mushi went for a useless manta style. What can he do except to ulti? As everyone mentioned, the drafts were abit weird. I'm not convinced with veno mid if you don't have a push lineup or 2nd DPS core.

That said, congrats speed. They deserve it the most. They won it with a unique style as well. Sing finally has a good team that he can rely on.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
November 25 2013 04:25 GMT
#5390
On November 25 2013 13:20 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:16 Mohdoo wrote:
this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG.

let's not do this lol, they're really good friends and have amazing team chemistry. It's like when ppl leave a team and everyone just assumes everyone is instantly enemies now when they're actually still super friendly.


this isn't awkward for bone7 at all if anything he's probably equally as happy for them

rtz and bone7 were part of the same team, they both complimented eachothers play really well back in KP

the reason RTZ was out was because he graduates after this year, and EE wanted much longer commitment which RTZ couldn't do because of school.

i dont think the win would of been marred by much if it was a random standin, but having them win with rtz definitely adds to it, not subtracts
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 04:26:42
November 25 2013 04:25 GMT
#5391
On November 25 2013 13:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


Make a 6 man team. Problem solved.

Unfortunately, I think that will really hurt. Their biggest strength is still how much they practice and the team chemistry they develop through that. When someone struggles on that team someone else picks it up flawlessly. Yeah, they added RTZ late but they practiced with him a lot as soon as it was announced not to mention the history.

As for people saying patch and not perfect dota, I've never watched a perfect game of dota and I never will. They worked extremely hard, figured out something that works on this patch, and got rewarded for it. That's that. DK didn't play their best dota, far from it, nor did speed (are we forgetting the EE blink into 5 after watching them deward, RTZ feed game 1, sing's missed hooks, etc. etc. etc.) but no one expects perfect dota unless they're insane.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
November 25 2013 04:25 GMT
#5392
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
November 25 2013 04:27 GMT
#5393
Great tournament to be sure.

The other one as great as this was the DHW last year.

Amongst the big western lans.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
November 25 2013 04:27 GMT
#5394
On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure


I remember seeing stats that pop up on the corner on the game and Singsing's stats were said to be the best of all professional miranas.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 25 2013 04:27 GMT
#5395
On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure

i disagree, bone has the best clock though.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 04:28:54
November 25 2013 04:28 GMT
#5396
On November 25 2013 13:24 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.



You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?


Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game?

There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final.

Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed


Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours?

Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.


A) The pressure of playing in the semis and finals are definitely more fatiguing than normal practice.

B) Even a little bit of fatigue, slightest delay on reaction, slightest misjudgement will get punished at such high level of game.

C) Any professional athlete would want to be as fresh and rested as possible before such a big match.

D) This is not an attack on Speed gaming, stop being so hostile and defensive like your little ego has anything to do with them. This was an amazing series regardless.

Give me a break. No one in this tournament including Na'Vi and Alliance were even close to the performance of Speed. Speed just outplayed, they were by far the best team at MLG.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
November 25 2013 04:28 GMT
#5397
On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure


Actually in online games, they have been running SingSing mirana mid over Bone7, who plays other offlane heroes. Bone7 used to Mirana in the past, but these days, they give it to singsing. He's like 15-1 on Mirana lately.
Envy fan since NTH.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
November 25 2013 04:28 GMT
#5398
On November 25 2013 13:27 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure


I remember seeing stats that pop up on the corner on the game and Singsing's stats were said to be the best of all professional miranas.


Yup. Sing has only lost once before with Mirana and that was the first MLG game against Alliance in which he had no sleep and hallucinated himself to think Akke's cm had force staff.

He is like 14-1 or so with it i think.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 25 2013 04:29 GMT
#5399
On November 25 2013 13:27 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure


I remember seeing stats that pop up on the corner on the game and Singsing's stats were said to be the best of all professional miranas.

Bone hits arrows like nyx stuns

But in seriousness, they both have insane winrates on that hero, they play it very differently though.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 25 2013 04:29 GMT
#5400
On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote:
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.


Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.


bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure


Sing's Mirana is like Dendi's pudge, is ability to land arrows that change games is unparalleled. Bone probably has a better offlane mirana, but as a pure Mirana player other teams fear and respect, SingSing's is unparalleled
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