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On November 25 2013 13:16 Mohdoo wrote: this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG. bone seems pretty chill about how things played out judging by his twitter
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On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.
Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.
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On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.
Make a 6 man team. Problem solved.
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On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote: This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.
I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3. Yeah. Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage. QQ yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens. You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day? Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team? Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game? There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final. Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours? Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.
It's like admitting DK would lose in a long bo5.
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On November 25 2013 13:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. Make a 6 man team. Problem solved. There's no problem. RTZ can't play full-time.
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On November 25 2013 13:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. Make a 6 man team. Problem solved. ^ Use RTZ, Bone, Sing as situations call for
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Poll: Recommend Speed vs DK game 3?Yes (116) 94% No (6) 5% If you have time (2) 2% 124 total votes Your vote: Recommend Speed vs DK game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
If you haven't voted yet, please do! I know more ppl than this watched the finals!
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On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote: This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.
I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3. Yeah. Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage. QQ yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens. You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day? Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team? Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game? There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final. Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours? Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.
A) The pressure of playing in the semis and finals are definitely more fatiguing than normal practice.
B) Even a little bit of fatigue, slightest delay on reaction, slightest misjudgement will get punished at such high level of game.
C) Any professional athlete would want to be as fresh and rested as possible before such a big match.
D) This is not an attack on Speed gaming, stop being so hostile and defensive like your little ego has anything to do with them. This was an amazing series regardless.
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Damn the initiations by speed were fantastic. I think teams should start to get diffusal more to counter hexes. mushi went for a useless manta style. What can he do except to ulti? As everyone mentioned, the drafts were abit weird. I'm not convinced with veno mid if you don't have a push lineup or 2nd DPS core.
That said, congrats speed. They deserve it the most. They won it with a unique style as well. Sing finally has a good team that he can rely on.
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On November 25 2013 13:20 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:16 Mohdoo wrote: this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG. let's not do this lol, they're really good friends and have amazing team chemistry. It's like when ppl leave a team and everyone just assumes everyone is instantly enemies now when they're actually still super friendly.
this isn't awkward for bone7 at all if anything he's probably equally as happy for them
rtz and bone7 were part of the same team, they both complimented eachothers play really well back in KP
the reason RTZ was out was because he graduates after this year, and EE wanted much longer commitment which RTZ couldn't do because of school.
i dont think the win would of been marred by much if it was a random standin, but having them win with rtz definitely adds to it, not subtracts
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On November 25 2013 13:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. Make a 6 man team. Problem solved. Unfortunately, I think that will really hurt. Their biggest strength is still how much they practice and the team chemistry they develop through that. When someone struggles on that team someone else picks it up flawlessly. Yeah, they added RTZ late but they practiced with him a lot as soon as it was announced not to mention the history.
As for people saying patch and not perfect dota, I've never watched a perfect game of dota and I never will. They worked extremely hard, figured out something that works on this patch, and got rewarded for it. That's that. DK didn't play their best dota, far from it, nor did speed (are we forgetting the EE blink into 5 after watching them deward, RTZ feed game 1, sing's missed hooks, etc. etc. etc.) but no one expects perfect dota unless they're insane.
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On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know.
bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure
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Great tournament to be sure.
The other one as great as this was the DHW last year.
Amongst the big western lans.
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On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure
I remember seeing stats that pop up on the corner on the game and Singsing's stats were said to be the best of all professional miranas.
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On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure i disagree, bone has the best clock though.
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On November 25 2013 13:24 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote: This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.
I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3. Yeah. Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage. QQ yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens. You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day? Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team? Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game? There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final. Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours? Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat. A) The pressure of playing in the semis and finals are definitely more fatiguing than normal practice. B) Even a little bit of fatigue, slightest delay on reaction, slightest misjudgement will get punished at such high level of game. C) Any professional athlete would want to be as fresh and rested as possible before such a big match. D) This is not an attack on Speed gaming, stop being so hostile and defensive like your little ego has anything to do with them. This was an amazing series regardless. Give me a break. No one in this tournament including Na'Vi and Alliance were even close to the performance of Speed. Speed just outplayed, they were by far the best team at MLG.
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On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure
Actually in online games, they have been running SingSing mirana mid over Bone7, who plays other offlane heroes. Bone7 used to Mirana in the past, but these days, they give it to singsing. He's like 15-1 on Mirana lately.
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On November 25 2013 13:27 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure I remember seeing stats that pop up on the corner on the game and Singsing's stats were said to be the best of all professional miranas.
Yup. Sing has only lost once before with Mirana and that was the first MLG game against Alliance in which he had no sleep and hallucinated himself to think Akke's cm had force staff.
He is like 14-1 or so with it i think.
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On November 25 2013 13:27 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure I remember seeing stats that pop up on the corner on the game and Singsing's stats were said to be the best of all professional miranas. Bone hits arrows like nyx stuns
But in seriousness, they both have insane winrates on that hero, they play it very differently though.
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On November 25 2013 13:25 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 13:21 Piledriver wrote:On November 25 2013 13:20 the`postman wrote: imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo. Well they won so many games on the back of Singsing's insane mirana play, so I dont know. bone is a superior mirana im pretty sure
Sing's Mirana is like Dendi's pudge, is ability to land arrows that change games is unparalleled. Bone probably has a better offlane mirana, but as a pure Mirana player other teams fear and respect, SingSing's is unparalleled
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