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[MLG] Fall Championships Day 3 - Page 269

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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#5361
On November 25 2013 13:13 Fruscainte wrote:
Fucking Blinx is insane. That blink behind enemy lines to pick off all the supports really sent it home for me about how legit it is.

Although matchmaking is gonna be very rough for a while, blinkz everywhere.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
November 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#5362
Can we have a speed gaming logo now?
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Gallimatias
Profile Joined May 2009
France95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 04:17:35
November 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5363
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
November 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5364
this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5365
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.



You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?

waa dude, that's not even a confrontional post. I was just chatting. I root for Speed fyi.

RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
November 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5366
On November 25 2013 13:09 lprk wrote:
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On November 25 2013 13:07 Fruscainte wrote:
Boy oh boy do I remember EE-sama's first thread saying he was quitting college to become a DotA player and everyone was hating on him hardcore.

So glad to see him reach this point.

How you cannot hate guy who cries on forums that life of professional gamer is hard, while every other player have same and don't cry.

How can you hate the guy who has such #passion that he cries openly over his dreams not coming true

passion of the ee-sama coming soon
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
November 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5367
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.



You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?


Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game?

There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final.

Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
November 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5368
What a close series. I do feel that DK was disadvantaged for having to play 2 BO3 back to back, but that's just their luck I suppose.

I was rooting for DK definitely, since they were wiping out everyone in such dominating fashion earlier. But much respect to speed-gaming for their amazing talent as well.

Singsing's mirana - astral into arrow = gg <3
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 04:19:03
November 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5369
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

thats what happens when you hold a tournament a month after a huge patch. nobody really knows what to do and so teams are scrambling to figure out what are the best strategies and how should the team play the version, as a result the drafting and the execution of all the teams was pretty shoddy but it made for some interesting results, who wouldve thought speed gaming would get 1st place, sigma.int get 3rd/4th?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
November 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5370
Im so HAPPY AND PROUD shit
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
November 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5371
I think that final was really all about Pieliedie and lanm. What a series from the two supports.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#5372
On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.



You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?


Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game?

There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final.

Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed


Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours?

Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.
secret - never again
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#5373
No flair for Speed. What am I supposed to do?
Moderator
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#5374
On November 25 2013 13:14 Count9 wrote:
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On November 25 2013 13:08 trinxified wrote:
You guys think if bOne7 was here, would result be the same?

Maybe. Sing is definitely not as good a clock player as bone or as comfortable on just getting midas and sitting back and farming (even on SF his most farmy mid hero), but at the same time his arrows single handedly saved more than 1 game that would've eliminated the team. RTZ's overwhelming farm on midas OD was hugely beneficial for them to have a back up when EE blinks into 5. But, sing mid is less farmy and more roamy and they crushed DK game 2 with a more aggro style. The results could've definitely been the same, but the games would've been ridiculously different.

imo bone7 has the best clock in the world but sing's mirana is god tier, always impacts his game and is super consistent. speed has to work on a couple of issues though. I think aui needs to improve his individual player skill for example.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
November 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#5375
imagine this team if arteezy never had to leave and they still had the bone7 offlane+arteezy mid combo.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#5376
On November 25 2013 13:13 Retvets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.


Agreed with u completely.

Speed played well but DK just didnt do as well as they should.

Maybe they are tired, maybe its the pressure but the last 2 games, if the DK played like normal DK, I was sure they will do better and maybe even win.


After those 3 tense, hard fought games that were arguably more competitive and exciting than the Na'Vi series, why would you try to belittle SPG's huge achievement? It was the finest series since TI3 Finals
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#5377
As a DK fan, I'm happy for a great tournament and great result.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
November 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#5378
On November 25 2013 13:16 Mohdoo wrote:
this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG.


Well they say if bone7's next visa application is rejected, he will be barred from entering US for a very long time.

So this might be the team you see in TI4.

After all, unless they completely fall off the cliff like empire did last year, Speed probably have almost secured their TI4 invitation with this win.
All they need to do is to at least stay somewhat relevant for the next few months.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#5379
On November 25 2013 13:16 Mohdoo wrote:
this is awkward for bone7. It's hard to say a team should be any different than one that it takes to win this MLG.

let's not do this lol, they're really good friends and have amazing team chemistry. It's like when ppl leave a team and everyone just assumes everyone is instantly enemies now when they're actually still super friendly.
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
November 25 2013 04:21 GMT
#5380
On November 25 2013 13:19 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 13:17 Retvets wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 25 2013 13:06 Orome wrote:
This feels pretty tragic as a DK fan. An almost perfect tourney marred by a terrible last 3 games. Even the first game was pretty bad.

I won't pretend to be any sort of Dota expert, but I really don't understand DK's drafts in this finals. Why a solo Alch top in game 2, why Mushi on a hero that doesn't seem like it suits his playstyle game 3.

Yeah.

Mid veno, roaming wisp, solo alch vs a clinkz/visage.
QQ

yeah if you've been playing non stop 6 games of 60+ min, dat happens.




You really think 2 60 games from the Navi series affects a team that practices 10 hours day?

Can we please stop making excuses for a very good team that simply got beat by a better team?


Do you think a competitive game is similar to normal practice game?

There's literally not enough rest time for players between games ... esp betwen 2nd semi and the final.

Also didnt understand why 2/3rd seeds get more rest between semi and final compared to the 1st seed


Do you think 2 hours is comparable to 10 hours?

Stop making excuses just becasue you're a DK fan. Own up, they got beat.



Speed played well but you dont need to be passive-aggressive......

DK played close to 7-8 hours of Dota today with less breaks than Speed
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