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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
March 30 2014 13:51 GMT
#341
Maybe Hao thinks he can dodge AA ult w/ waveform? Not exactly a reliable plan
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 30 2014 13:51 GMT
#342
On March 30 2014 22:50 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:47 opterown wrote:
does morphling not morph strength under AA ulti or something?

He morphs str, gets higher HP pool and does not get ANY bonus HP. Essentially you will die faster because of shatter. Same story with clinkz and AA.

I see it other way. Morph 20 minute shotgun = instant AA death.

We are talking about morph that will probably go linkens-shotgun. In this scenario 20 min shotgun is only possible is Morph is good enough to get ~40 last hits at 5:00 and never die. Not to mention that AA will probably be on other hand of map :3
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 30 2014 13:52 GMT
#343
On March 30 2014 22:48 Daralii wrote:
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On March 30 2014 22:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
We'll see. I think STR morph doesn't heal you if you get hit by Ice Blast.

Correct. Gaining strength normally increases your current and maximum health, while affected by Ice Blast it only increases the maximum.

AA is the single hardest counter to Morphling there is.

Well in that case GG Morph. Guess he'll have to be dodging it all game.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
March 30 2014 13:53 GMT
#344
On March 30 2014 22:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 22:50 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:47 opterown wrote:
does morphling not morph strength under AA ulti or something?

He morphs str, gets higher HP pool and does not get ANY bonus HP. Essentially you will die faster because of shatter. Same story with clinkz and AA.

I see it other way. Morph 20 minute shotgun = instant AA death.

We are talking about morph that will probably go linkens-shotgun. In this scenario 20 min shotgun is only possible is Morph is good enough to get ~40 last hits at 5:00 and never die. Not to mention that AA will probably be on other hand of map :3

You forgot about pushing abilities of Newbee and that VG will have to fight 4v5 before 15 minutes.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 13:53:49
March 30 2014 13:53 GMT
#345
On March 30 2014 22:50 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:47 opterown wrote:
does morphling not morph strength under AA ulti or something?

He morphs str, gets higher HP pool and does not get ANY bonus HP. Essentially you will die faster because of shatter. Same story with clinkz and AA.

I see it other way. Morph 20 minute shotgun = instant AA death.
xiao8 drafted the heroes that counter split-push at best.


Not quite that simple. AA is always positioned way behind his team (to increase ice blast radius). It's going to be a hard time for the morph to find the AA before he used his ult. And if you blast him down after he uses iceblast, well theres no point then.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 13:57:49
March 30 2014 13:56 GMT
#346
On March 30 2014 22:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 22:50 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:47 opterown wrote:
does morphling not morph strength under AA ulti or something?

He morphs str, gets higher HP pool and does not get ANY bonus HP. Essentially you will die faster because of shatter. Same story with clinkz and AA.

I see it other way. Morph 20 minute shotgun = instant AA death.
xiao8 drafted the heroes that counter split-push at best.


Not quite that simple. AA is always positioned way behind his team (to increase ice blast radius). It's going to be a hard time for the morph to find the AA before he used his ult. And if you blast him down after he uses iceblast, well theres no point then.

I was speaking about 5v5 fights. When it's not, itsn't slightly dangerous, Newbee will just backup.

And in 5v5 fights I wish you goodluck against Blink Puck, Blink SS and Waveform Shotgun Morph.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 14:00:15
March 30 2014 13:57 GMT
#347
Okay this jungle Sand King shenanigan is quite retarded...

edit: Wow this Replicate bait was awesome :D:D.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 30 2014 13:57 GMT
#348
On March 30 2014 22:56 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 22:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:50 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:47 opterown wrote:
does morphling not morph strength under AA ulti or something?

He morphs str, gets higher HP pool and does not get ANY bonus HP. Essentially you will die faster because of shatter. Same story with clinkz and AA.

I see it other way. Morph 20 minute shotgun = instant AA death.
xiao8 drafted the heroes that counter split-push at best.


Not quite that simple. AA is always positioned way behind his team (to increase ice blast radius). It's going to be a hard time for the morph to find the AA before he used his ult. And if you blast him down after he uses iceblast, well theres no point then.

I was speaking about 5v5 fights. When it's not, itsn't slightly dangerous, Newbee will just backup.

Unless AA's ult+ NP's ult accidentally kill morph.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
March 30 2014 13:58 GMT
#349
On March 30 2014 22:56 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 22:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:50 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 30 2014 22:47 opterown wrote:
does morphling not morph strength under AA ulti or something?

He morphs str, gets higher HP pool and does not get ANY bonus HP. Essentially you will die faster because of shatter. Same story with clinkz and AA.

I see it other way. Morph 20 minute shotgun = instant AA death.
xiao8 drafted the heroes that counter split-push at best.


Not quite that simple. AA is always positioned way behind his team (to increase ice blast radius). It's going to be a hard time for the morph to find the AA before he used his ult. And if you blast him down after he uses iceblast, well theres no point then.

I was speaking about 5v5 fights. When it's not, itsn't slightly dangerous, Newbee will just backup.


Exactly, in a 5v5 fight, the AA is going to be way behind his team to increase ice blast range. How exactly is the Morph supposed to find the AA to shotgun him down as you propositioned?
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
March 30 2014 14:01 GMT
#350
LOL today is not Hao's day.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#351
hao doing hao stuff lol
FTD
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#352
HAHAHAH HAO WTF...
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#353
WTF is Hao doing ?!?! Wave forms back into the enemy AFTER the SK already died.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#354
hao what the fuck was that waveform

why so greedy wtf
POGGERS
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#355
That waveform back by Hao was plain bad.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#356
NewBee was playing so well and then they feed 3 heroes to VG zzz. At least they killed Sylar.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#357
They are definitely drunk today
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#358
ugh lol that re-engage
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
March 30 2014 14:02 GMT
#359
I'm not super familiar with Chinese teams, who's playing on the Rubick this game? That was sick play from him.

Too bad his Morph just decided to go back in and feed :/
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 30 2014 14:03 GMT
#360
So, morph needs ~6200 gold for his shotgun.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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