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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:16 Retvets wrote: So many mistakes by team noobie- so many unnecessary bkb activations, so many stupid chases, and worst of all no antipush at all Alchemist+AA+SK+Doom is no antipush, alright. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Just really incredible from a team that's supposed to be the most disciplined in the world. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:19 FuzzyJAM wrote: Seriously though, blink in by Nyx and Xiao8 easily activates BKB in time but Hao is asleep and doesn't bother and then they lose top rax because Hao is dead. Regardless, Newbee win the fight mid 4v5 and decide to chase to T3 and manage to fucking lose advantage again. Just really incredible from a team that's supposed to be the most disciplined in the world. You forgot about BM, 2 hexes + roar is either AM is dead, or he escapes, but all his team dies. No difference really. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:21 opterown wrote: since when was newbee supposed to be the most disciplined team, they've been together for barely a few weeks and hao is well known to overextend anyway Well OK maybe I'm going overboard. But it's a Xiao8 team! And Xiao8 was the worst offender, so. . . | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote: You forgot about BM, 2 hexes + roar is either AM is dead, or he escapes, but all his team dies. No difference really. What? AM was the only one to die. | ||
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Sisaroth
Belgium591 Posts
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Retvets
1781 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:19 ForTehDarkseid wrote: Alchemist+AA+SK+Doom is no antipush, alright. Rephrasing it as lack of an instant antipush ala ES, Kotl etc. | ||
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:24 Sisaroth wrote: Is this a Bo3 or is it over? bo2 | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
hes saying that if they dont use it on am they use it on the other heroes and they will die even faster | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:25 TRAP[yoo] wrote: hes saying that if they dont use it on am they use it on the other heroes and they will die even faster They have one BKB-piercing spell when all three cores have BKB. On March 30 2014 22:25 BlitzerSC wrote: Once AM gets roared there is not much he can do. Would have lived 100% if he had BKB active. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:25 FuzzyJAM wrote: They have one BKB-piercing spell when all three cores have BKB. Would have lived 100% if he had BKB active. It's borderline impossible to react to a Aghanim Beastmaster coming out from fog tbh... | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:27 BlitzerSC wrote: It's borderline impossible to react to a Aghanim Beastmaster coming out from fog tbh... Indeed, if you dont have vision of the BM prior to him casting it, you wont see a roar coming | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:25 FuzzyJAM wrote: They have one BKB-piercing spell when all three cores have BKB. Would have lived 100% if he had BKB active. 2 Melee cores against skilled NP and Invoker can't do much. VG got themselves a very good draft which is extremely hard to beat mid and late-game if you don't shutdown the Invoker with Alchemist as your number two. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:27 BlitzerSC wrote: It's borderline impossible to react to a Aghanim Beastmaster coming out from fog tbh... The incident I'm talking about was a blink in by Nyx, as I said. Xiao8 easily had his BKB up, Hao had even more time and failed. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:25 FuzzyJAM wrote: They have one BKB-piercing spell when all three cores have BKB. Would have lived 100% if he had BKB active. That's the thing that makes Scythe the strongest item in the game. Abilities like Hex or Roar give you instant disable. Does'nt matter if you have a BKB, as soon as you get hit by one of them, you're dead from the follow up chains. Sure, you can try to preemptive BKB but that's a really hard decision to make because once they see the BKB before the initiation, VG simply backs off. You can't just say "oh he should have just used bkb". You saw how well that worked with other Newbie members using preemptive bkbs. VG was going all-in focusing down the AM, since hes the only one they cant kite. If they fail the initiation they are not committed to the fight and can run away. If you fail your bkb usage (ie use it early) then you are committed to the fight for the next few seconds. | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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Retvets
1781 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 30 2014 22:34 wuhan_clan wrote: That's the thing that makes Scythe the strongest item in the game. Abilities like Hex or Roar give you instant disable. Does'nt matter if you have a BKB, as soon as you get hit by one of them, you're dead from the follow up chains. Sure, you can try to preemptive BKB but that's a really hard decision to make because once they see the BKB before the initiation, VG simply backs off. You can't just say "oh he should have just used bkb". You saw how well that worked with other Newbie members using preemptive bkbs. VG was going all-in focusing down the AM, since hes the only one they cant kite. If they fail the initiation they are not committed to the fight and can run away. If you fail your bkb usage (ie use it early) then you are committed to the fight for the next few seconds. Like I've said from the beginning, I was criticising a specific reaction to a blink initiation by Nyx, not a Hex or Roar, so. . . | ||
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