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![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/a/a3/Pangolier_Large.png) Donte Panlin, the Pangolier
The men and women that make up the Nivan Gallants live a life of swordplay, chandelier swinging, and tawdry romance. And while all adhere to their creed that "A life of adventure is the only life worth living," the exploits of Donte Panlin still manage to raise the eyebrows of even the most hedonistic of swordsmen.
There is no monster he won't slay. No creature he won't woo. No tyrant he won't stand against. And no noble immune to his silver tongue.
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/4/4e/Pangolier_icon.png)  Pangolier
Hey guys! Long time no see. Pangolier discussion.
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Feels a lot like Lancelot from Mobile Legends...
I mean the play style is quite the same and feels a lot like each other...
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Quick Tips:
* Q is really good for mobility in the jungle; use it to hop cliffs between camps. I find it worthwhile to carry clarities to sustain this prior to the level 10 mana talent.
* Max level Q+W flashes a creep wave. You may need to Q behind the ranged creep and walk in for the W if the wave's too spread out and you don't have Phase Boots.
* You can hit the dire small camp with Q from the adjacent medium camp and vice versa. With the right late game items, you can clear the small camp from the medium camp.
* Your ult can clear stacks in certain camps, like the Radiant large pullcamp, where there are convenient walls to bounce off of. Low cooldown FTW.
* The ult is perfectly functional as an escape if you can break vision for the 1.2 seconds you need to channel it... which Q can usually buy you.
* The items that add significant damage to all Q targets are Blight Stone (-> Desolator), Javelin (-> MKB), Maelstrom (-> Mjollnir), Diffusal and Assault Cuirass. Additionally, Basher (-> Abyssal) works on single targets. Obviously, the -armor options don't synergize with the magic/pure damage options.
* You can use utility items during the ultimate without cancelling it. Diffusal is the common example, but the default recommended item set also includes Shiva's for that purpose. Shadow Blade is a popular pub choice here but I don't think it's very good.
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The hero seems pretty good when used the right way. But his passive is underwhelming, and it really sucks hard, that your ult goes on cooldown, when you get stunned during cast time.
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I just played a game with him as a position 3. Blink Dagger is a really good mobility item that allows for some surprise stuns with the ult. It also allows for some cool shenanigans with Lifestealer.
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Dogshit hero. Easily the worst hero this patch by far
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His skill kit just screams offlaner to me. Disruptive frontliner that builds tanky. Q is a movement spell to help escape or dive into enemy backlines. Helps to proc -armor passive on enemy hero the team wants to focus fire too.
Diffusal is best for first damage item. Blink to help roll over people twice while ulting. Blink also helps to jump into fights without using Q spell immediately.
Alright seeing how iceiceice owns with it, seems closer to a carry offlaner than a utility offlaner. Might not even need to build tanky as he has decent str growth and his damage reduction nuke. Diffusal and basher are the core item procs you want for his Q spell. With those items, enemey will find it hard to disengage from this hero if they are losing the teamfight.
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Mineski.iceiceice playing him in the Captains Draft tournament. Position 3, max W, Aquila, Diffusal Blade, Blink.
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On November 04 2017 17:02 Kaj wrote:
Dogshit hero. Easily the worst hero this patch by far
He seems OP to me actually
Has a high skill ceiling so his winrate will be WAY below his potential
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On November 04 2017 17:23 babysimba wrote:
His skill kit just screams offlaner to me. Disruptive frontliner that builds tanky. Q is a movement spell to help escape or dive into enemy backlines. Helps to proc -armor passive on enemy hero the team wants to focus fire too.
Diffusal is best for first damage item. Blink to help roll over people twice while ulting. Blink also helps to jump into fights without using Q spell immediately.
Alright seeing how iceiceice owns with it, seems closer to a carry offlaner than a utility offlaner. Might not even need to build tanky as he has decent str growth and his damage reduction nuke. Diffusal and basher are the core item procs you want for his Q spell. With those items, enemey will find it hard to disengage from this hero if they are losing the teamfight.
you don't need to tank up much at all
nobody will kill you when you're rolling
he just went linken to avoid disables
This hero is pretty bullshit hilariously OP if you know how to play it xD
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Since Q is instant cast, the -3s talent puts it on par with Anti-mage's blink. Even without that, its level 4 cooldown isn't too much longer AND it comes with extra damage. One way Pangolier might play out is as a bootleg AM: Position 1 for ~5k gold worth of farming items -> Diffusal -> Manta. Except he can also roll into fights.
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Except he's really weak for that
I see Pangolier running the team over all game long
Then come in with Jugg and laugh in his face lategame
lategame min thing you do is roll disrupt the fight and use second skill and first one to finish people off
I've won most games on him and it was as 4 position actually
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I saw a video of him perma stunning an AM to death through use if terrain. Is he crazy in rosh pit?
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Any links to the Icex3 game(s) ?
I'd like to add that orb of venom (and to some extent blight stone) is pretty awesome value on this hero.
edit: found it myself thanks guys
edit2: yeah well, that was pretty much just minesky playing great, not exactly a pangolier domination- if ice had been on a Clock the game would have been the same (ice is such an annoying bitch to play against lol)
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It still baffles me that people didn't figure out Dagger being a core item on the hero
I mean it's not even TOP12 dotabuff item
And people have sub 40% winrate lol
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Winrate jumps to 47% with blink dagger, an item you can get literally every game
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I think it is important to point out that proccing heartpiercer sets armor to 0 so desolator, ac, medallion etc are all pretty worthless on this hero.
Also comboing pango with slardar makes for a very very sad slardar.
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With the new buffs I think they try to set the q skill to an quick semi relocation skill semi additional atack. And with the buff of 225 range cast on second skill this is turning him to a pretty hard hero to catch.
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On November 06 2017 17:30 HopLight wrote:
I think it is important to point out that proccing heartpiercer sets armor to 0 so desolator, ac, medallion etc are all pretty worthless on this hero.
Also comboing pango with slardar makes for a very very sad slardar.
That seems like something that's going to get changed. Otherwise you'd be helping the enemy by hitting them and it pretty much disqualifies Pangolier from many lineups.
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He feels like earth spirit with more damage and nonsilence at this point
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