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It's a lot of fun in the trenches, but not really viable out there.
[Hero] Monkey King - Page 2
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
It's a lot of fun in the trenches, but not really viable out there. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
1. Hit 4 times 2. Use Ult 3. Boundless Strike 4. Ultra kill The first skill feels like it needs some tweaks | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
Also have a "fissure" spell that is the entire kit of earthshaker before blink. | ||
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Jutranjo
Slovenia140 Posts
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Salmacis
France44 Posts
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cuckoo
595 Posts
Drow? Viper? I think maybe PL and Ench are good against him aswell? For me, the most broken thing about the hero right now is the lifesteal. It shouldn't even exist, being 50% makes it kinda absurd really | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On December 16 2016 20:56 cuckoo wrote: How are you guys countering him? And I don't mean the destroying trees thingy. Sure that seems important, but I don't know good cores against him. Drow? Viper? I think maybe PL and Ench are good against him aswell? For me, the most broken thing about the hero right now is the lifesteal. It shouldn't even exist, being 50% makes it kinda absurd really Mostly just play against him like he's a really scary ursa-like hero, so perma-stun him and kite him. Don't let him hit you unless you're ursa yourself (ursa >>>>>>> Mk 1v1). Understand his skillset, e.g. juke side to side to dodge his Q, don't let him hit you multiple times, don't stand in his ultimate. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
I said this in the other thread, but I really hope they nerf his attack range or reduce his base movement speed, because his ability to run people down lv 2 is bullshit, the rest is fine imo. | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
On December 16 2016 23:24 Ayaz2810 wrote: This dude is definitely OP, but people suck ass at playing him. I've seen one guy use him to his full potential, and he destroyed the other team. I think the game ended with him like 18-1. His ult is absurd in a big teamfight, and it does so much damage. He seems fun, but definitely broken if not countered properly. Ferrari_430 finished a game 34/2 yesterday, playing offlane. it was funny seeing 50 - 12 and he having 34 kills in 25~min | ||
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DazzleEnthusiast
United States72 Posts
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
On December 16 2016 20:56 cuckoo wrote: How are you guys countering him? 2x Force Staff | ||
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Salmacis
France44 Posts
On December 16 2016 20:56 cuckoo wrote: How are you guys countering him? And I don't mean the destroying trees thingy. Sure that seems important, but I don't know good cores against him. Drow? Viper? I think maybe PL and Ench are good against him aswell? For me, the most broken thing about the hero right now is the lifesteal. It shouldn't even exist, being 50% makes it kinda absurd really Certainly not ench. Unless you like getting one-shotted by his Q. A go-to anti MK hero is clock. Decent HP pool, blademail user, rocket to scout tree shenanigans, if you hit him with a rocket when he's atop a tree, you get an easy hook since he can't move for three seconds, he has no escape inside your cogs and he doesn't like to build f-staff. His ult cast point his ridiculously long, battery assault will prevent it. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
Hero is broken Only hero that could so somehting against him is bat | ||
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fourthirds
Canada132 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
OD : omg I get astraled all the time, I can't do ANYTHING, and he also gets last hits with it because is dmg in AOE. Also he has free mana. lulz. Clockwerk : omfg you can't cast anything with his BS battery assault. No skill hero, just runs at you and GG. Then hookshot you from fog. Cogs are broken as fuck, you just can't fight. Riki : like, this guy is always invisible. You don't even know if he's in lane. How is that balanced, srsly?! Invulnerable during his ult too, because why not. VS : so this support gets a reliable stun, a fucking scaling dmg aura AND she can basically swap your core every team fight, winning the game. WP OSfrog. Faceless void : so if he ults your whole team dies. That's like giving black hole to a fucking core. On a shorter CD. Smart thinking. There's no counter to that, if the game gets late, you will lose. Please remove. And so on. There are juicier ones, too. Slark, Jugg, PA, zeus. Om nom nom. So yeah MK is strong, a lot of heroes are. Learn his patterns, even better, play him for a couple of games. You'll see he has weaknesses, too. | ||
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Frogstomp
United States125 Posts
On December 18 2016 05:02 Murlox wrote: Reading some of the comments here, I feel like you could say the same about basically any hero in dota. Just imagine some of these heroes were just released : OD : omg I get astraled all the time, I can't do ANYTHING, and he also gets last hits with it because is dmg in AOE. Also he has free mana. lulz. Clockwerk : omfg you can't cast anything with his BS battery assault. No skill hero, just runs at you and GG. Then hookshot you from fog. Cogs are broken as fuck, you just can't fight. Riki : like, this guy is always invisible. You don't even know if he's in lane. How is that balanced, srsly?! Invulnerable during his ult too, because why not. VS : so this support gets a reliable stun, a fucking scaling dmg aura AND she can basically swap your core every team fight, winning the game. WP OSfrog. Faceless void : so if he ults your whole team dies. That's like giving black hole to a fucking core. On a shorter CD. Smart thinking. There's no counter to that, if the game gets late, you will lose. Please remove. And so on. There are juicier ones, too. Slark, Jugg, PA, zeus. Om nom nom. So yeah MK is strong, a lot of heroes are. Learn his patterns, even better, play him for a couple of games. You'll see he has weaknesses, too. Imagine if they released Tiny as a new hero today. OMG ava/toss combo insta-kill so OP. Takes rax in 5 secs can't do anything icefrog pls nerf MK is def very strong right now and will likely get some nerfs...but I don't think he's especially broken or OP. I think if you take a little bit of damage or even just back-load the scaling of Jingu, and maybe raise the mana cost of his Q and W, the hero becomes significantly less strong and can't snowball in the laning phase. That, and maybe jingu charges should have a timer on them...or at least have some visual indicator for opponents letting them know that MK has jingu charges available Effective ways of dealing with him that I've seen are chain disables (he's relatively squishy if you can prevent him from getting the 50% lifesteal from jingu), flying vision/tree clear (bat rider, timber, beast master), urn of shadows (can't hop into trees during fight), and force staff | ||
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