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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 14 2016 03:00 GMT
#1

Sun Wukong, the Monkey King
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"Always in search of a good fight, Monkey King travels atop the trees aiming to spring from leafy cover and surprise his enemies. Calling upon an army of monkey soldiers to overwhelm opponents, this agile trickster revels in the chaos of battle, ready to slam his legendary staff down on any hopes of escape."

Talent Tree

  1. +5 Armor OR +20 Attack Speed
  2. +20 Movement Speed OR +275 Health
  3. +15 Strength OR +40 Damage
  4. +100% Boundless Strike Crit OR +25% Magic Resistance


Skills

Boundless Strike
Monkey King enlarges his staff and slams it against the ground, stunning enemies in a line and damaging them with a critical hit based on his attack. Has True Strike.

Tree Dance
Monkey King jumps to a tree and perches atop it. While perched, he gains the Primal Spring ability—a channeled leap attack. If Monkey King's tree is destroyed, he falls and is stunned for 4 seconds. Taking damage from enemy heroes while on the ground puts Tree Jump on cooldown.

Primal Spring
Monkey King springs out from his tree perch, damaging and slowing enemies in the area where he lands. Damage and slow amounts are in proportion to channel duration.

Jingu Mastery
Monkey King's attacks awaken the Jingu Bang's power. Upon the fourth hit on the same enemy hero, Monkey King earns four charged attacks that have bonus damage and lifesteal.

Wukong's Command
Monkey King creates a circular formation of soldiers that spread out from his position. If Monkey King leaves the area his soldiers disperse. The soldiers have Monkey King's attack and only target heroes. Monkey King and all his soldiers receive bonus damage for the spell's duration.

Mischief
Changes Monkey King's shape to deceive opponents, using the environment nearby as inspiration for the disguise. Taking damage, attacking, or using any item or ability breaks Monkey King's disguise.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 14 2016 03:03 GMT
#2
So what's everyone's thoughts so far? I'm definitely feeling this hero for either mid vs a melee hero, or safelane carry. Very strong 1v1 laner with max E, followed by max Q with value point in W. For items, phase and echo sabre feel core but other than that I've been playing around with shadow blade, drums, sny, blink, aquila.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
FuzioNda1337
Profile Joined October 2013
Sweden159 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 04:18:00
December 14 2016 04:16 GMT
#3
what ppl seem to forget is his extremly high attack range for being melee, making him one of the absolute best 1v1.

i dont like shadowblade on him, echosabre is godly fixes his mana regen, buffs his jingu mastery and you really dont want to much AS instead of dmg on mk becuse of his boundless strike.

he is alright mid but problem is no tree:s i rather see him jungle offlane than as a safelane carry.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 14 2016 04:30 GMT
#4
How much damage does a 4-5 slot carry MK do with boundless strike 300%?
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 14 2016 07:47 GMT
#5
Everyone suggest him to be mid or safelane but I see MK as a roam pos4 space creator, map controller. I think he has similarities with earth spirit in that sense. It seems he can scale well with the items even though his skill set is pretty strong with levels.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Akara12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
164 Posts
December 14 2016 09:37 GMT
#6
Kinda funny IceFrog didn't put Echo Sabre in his Core Items.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 14 2016 10:03 GMT
#7
i tried bfury on this hero, it's pretty ass
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Frogstomp
Profile Joined January 2013
United States125 Posts
December 14 2016 11:33 GMT
#8
I've seen waga go orchid on him as well to great effect. The AOE slow + silence all but guarantees you'll get your 4 hits in, then Q and pop.

Most of the time though, echo sabre into deso seems pretty disgusting
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
December 14 2016 15:23 GMT
#9
Saw zai play mk pos 4 starting with orb of venom. He moves around the map through trees and warding behind t1s. He maxed the jump-to-the-ground-dealing-damage-thing and the slam after. level 4 he picked the passive because even if he didn't proc (they killed everyone too fast) it was still valuable. The rest of the game doesn't count too much, it was a stomp.
FuzioNda1337
Profile Joined October 2013
Sweden159 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 19:10:30
December 14 2016 19:08 GMT
#10
i feel that his q is way to powerful id rather see it lowered cd and less dmg on it. reason is if you have both passive active and ult and stun you can one shot the entire opponent team with ease its just hillarious how much damage it deals, and i would also se his attack stack also work on minions however give it a slight nerf so that its more hits requiered and it gives him less damage and lifesteal to build it up pre gank or teamfight in some way,


this guy with ult and passive procc active deals more damage then a well geared tidebringer hit from kunnka or a well geared ember plus it stuns downside is it has a huge cooldown, but the burst its just way to big. i even think kunnka and ember:s aoe nuke is stupid this is way worse, its insane in earlygame and scales better.


So my problem with him is his Q ability somthing needs to happen here. it already deals insane damage without ult or passive with those two its broken beyond redemption.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 15 2016 01:03 GMT
#11
I can't wait for the Monkey King nerf.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 15 2016 01:43 GMT
#12
IDK if he's that broken tbh, ppl just need to realise he's basically ursa and treat him as such.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
December 15 2016 03:30 GMT
#13
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/monkey-king

48% WR

I dont think hes OP.

people need 2 weeks to figure out counters and ways to play around him, and then he wont be a problem.
A slight tweak might be necessary.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 15 2016 04:43 GMT
#14
On December 15 2016 12:30 DV G wrote:
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/monkey-king

48% WR

I dont think hes OP.

people need 2 weeks to figure out counters and ways to play around him, and then he wont be a problem.
A slight tweak might be necessary.

I'm sure that a lot of people are also playing him sub-optimally though, I expect that winrate to climb and his pickrate to drop.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
DazzleEnthusiast
Profile Joined May 2014
United States72 Posts
December 15 2016 05:39 GMT
#15
I played a game earlier today with HotD, ptreads, sny into an AC @ 4k. it seemed to work well -- you just want enough health to stay around and fight. maybe even crimson guard on him? you just rely on getting jingu procs off and healing back to full. I dont think you need echo sabre to accomplish this, especially when you hit harder via sny + maim
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
December 15 2016 09:25 GMT
#16
Echo sabre gives you much needed mana regen. I think phase boots and echo sabre are the way to go, and after that rush MKB since what the fuck else are you gonna get on the monkey king
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 15 2016 10:18 GMT
#17
On December 15 2016 18:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
Echo sabre gives you much needed mana regen. I think phase boots and echo sabre are the way to go, and after that rush MKB since what the fuck else are you gonna get on the monkey king

Defensive items like bkb or stats item to tank up, so you can stand in your OP circle of death without getting bursted down.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 15 2016 10:33 GMT
#18
On December 15 2016 13:43 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 12:30 DV G wrote:
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/monkey-king

48% WR

I dont think hes OP.

people need 2 weeks to figure out counters and ways to play around him, and then he wont be a problem.
A slight tweak might be necessary.

I'm sure that a lot of people are also playing him sub-optimally though, I expect that winrate to climb and his pickrate to drop.

48℅ on a hero people no practice with or know how to play, seems OP to me dawg...Icefrog has always made new concept heroes OP though. I remember megabuff Puck when it first came out . He just wants people to give these weird heroes a try and then switches to nerf hammer quickly like with pick, Ember, earth spirit, warden...
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 15 2016 11:35 GMT
#19
On December 15 2016 19:33 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 13:43 Birdie wrote:
On December 15 2016 12:30 DV G wrote:
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/monkey-king

48% WR

I dont think hes OP.

people need 2 weeks to figure out counters and ways to play around him, and then he wont be a problem.
A slight tweak might be necessary.

I'm sure that a lot of people are also playing him sub-optimally though, I expect that winrate to climb and his pickrate to drop.

48℅ on a hero people no practice with or know how to play, seems OP to me dawg...Icefrog has always made new concept heroes OP though. I remember megabuff Puck when it first came out . He just wants people to give these weird heroes a try and then switches to nerf hammer quickly like with pick, Ember, earth spirit, warden...


valve is not always quick, sometimes it takes months to fix some obvious strong heroes(new spirits, legion etc..).
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
December 15 2016 13:25 GMT
#20
phase echo deso is pretty good apparently in this hero.
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