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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 12 2014 19:46 GMT
#19101
Also wiki searchable but w/e.

Bristle's damage reduction checks to see the location of the unit doing damage to it in relation to the direction bristle is facing. So the only thing that matters is where the necro is vs where bristle is facing. At the time the damage applies, of course. Technically you could ult him from behind then say force staff in front of him for full dmg.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 02:47:53
September 13 2014 02:42 GMT
#19102
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is there an elegant way to use cheats in an offline game? Basically I want to recreate what you get when you create an empty lobby with cheats enabled. I don't have that option through the ui in offline mode. So I tried sv_lan 1 map dota.bsp jointeam goodguys dota_workshoptest 1 -create hero legion and the legion it gave me has ai and fights my control. Is there either a work around for the ai fighting me or a much simpler solution altogether (that doesn't involve having internet)?


Edit: sorry just found the solution: console command dota_bot_disable 1; disregard
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 13 2014 06:22 GMT
#19103
On September 13 2014 04:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
negative damage is treated as 0

negative armor has it's own formula. look it up on liquipedia and/or the wiki.

in dota 1 it has its own formula, in dota 2 valve was lazy and just has the same formula for both + and - armor values. Known bug for years, it's why negative armor past 20 has an effect in dota 2 as well.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12142 Posts
September 13 2014 20:00 GMT
#19104
Is it possible to bind a console command that drops an item by id or slot? Reason, playing techies and having to drop arcane boots every 30 s all game.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 00:04:54
September 14 2014 00:01 GMT
#19105
There isn't.

Honestly, drop Arcanes->use Soul Ring is a bug (Soul Ring's extra mana buffer is supposed to be separate from your max mana and therefore shouldn't be affected by your total mana growing or shrinking the way other ways of gaining mana is), and shouldn't even be in the game, so I would be against adding a console command that encourages its use.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 01:17:01
September 14 2014 01:16 GMT
#19106
but bug abuse is super important to winning dota, how else do we see certain TI finalists get to where they are in 2012 and 2013
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 02:10:24
September 14 2014 02:06 GMT
#19107
Honestly, they've had so long to fix bugs like that that I consider everything intended until it's fixed.

Even armlet bear survived for months and months until icefrog decided it was indeed op, and oh-we-totally-just-noticed-this bugfixed it.

Drop-slot hotkeys would be useful in a lot of other circumstances as well, as would sell-slot hotkeys.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 14 2014 02:29 GMT
#19108
Wait what bug did they abuse at ti2?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 03:46:06
September 14 2014 03:45 GMT
#19109
while it was an unintended consequence of the dota2 engine and not straight up purposeful abuse ala Ti3, the chain of events known as "the play" more or less directly stems from a crucial engine difference between dota and dota2 regarding naga song and ravage interaction as well as dota2's ability to queue actions
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
September 14 2014 03:51 GMT
#19110
On September 14 2014 09:01 TheYango wrote:
There isn't.

Honestly, drop Arcanes->use Soul Ring is a bug (Soul Ring's extra mana buffer is supposed to be separate from your max mana and therefore shouldn't be affected by your total mana growing or shrinking the way other ways of gaining mana is), and shouldn't even be in the game, so I would be against adding a console command that encourages its use.


Fixing that would be a pretty large nerf to tinker I think.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 14 2014 04:14 GMT
#19111
it doesn't affect tinker very much as tinker doesn't usually get mana items until late in the game
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12142 Posts
September 14 2014 05:24 GMT
#19112
Agreed, Tinker isn't really effected. The thing he usually does is drop items and bottle mana up. Which would work even if they decided what I asked wasn't proper for the game after 4 years of it being in it.
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
September 14 2014 06:03 GMT
#19113
mmm pretty sure if you arent dropping items to use soul ring on every fountain trip after level 2 rearm you're doing it wrong
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 06:13:55
September 14 2014 06:13 GMT
#19114
there's nothing to drop for a tinker in the first ~8000 gold of their typical build aside from maybe a null talisman, at which point the impact is barely worth it
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12142 Posts
September 14 2014 12:00 GMT
#19115
Since there isn't a hotkey to drop items, what is the best way to do it? Align the screen with items near the hero and drag and drop, use soul ring and then pick them up? It just seems to take so much time when I have three items to drop and pick up.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
September 14 2014 12:10 GMT
#19116
if u have to drop it on the ground you can attempt to align screens or whatever but the fastest way would be to just practice your mouse control.
if you have more than 6 items however, just switch items around in your stash. quite easy once you get the hang of it
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12142 Posts
September 14 2014 12:42 GMT
#19117
On September 14 2014 21:10 evilfatsh1t wrote:
if u have to drop it on the ground you can attempt to align screens or whatever but the fastest way would be to just practice your mouse control.
if you have more than 6 items however, just switch items around in your stash. quite easy once you get the hang of it


Techies does this out on the map most of the time. I don't think stash switching works. :/
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
September 14 2014 12:52 GMT
#19118
well then no solution but to improve your mouse speed and accuracy
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 14 2014 13:14 GMT
#19119
I wonder why they don't implement something like in hon, where Ctrl+click item = put it into stash, and Ctrl+Alt+click item = sell it
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany355 Posts
September 14 2014 15:08 GMT
#19120
Hm I think the general mentality of dota is that adding additional features that make it easier to do certain inputs is not necessarily a good thing. I guess it has a lot to do with the origin of dota being wc3.
I always find myself on the 'no, I really wouldnt want that feature to be added'-side, but I struggle for real reasoning as to why. It would be a very useful feature, but it would make playing heroes like Tinker so much easier/more efficient...
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