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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Medallion is used by Lycan to solo Rosh early. This is well known. Also, Roshan has spell immunity that you have to pop before you can (for example) hit him with Shackle or Hex or whatever. So...if Medallion goes through that...what is its interaction with Linkens? Does it go through that without popping it too? Edit: Apparently I can't spell today. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 10 2014 23:03 -Celestial- wrote: Thought just occurred to me after the Medallion comments last page. Medallion is used by Lycan to solo Rosh early. This is will known. Also, Roshan has spell immunity that you have to pop before you can (for example) hit him with Shackle or Hex or whatever. So...if Medallion goes through that...what is its interaction with Linkens? Does it go through that without popping it too? Urn and medalion do not proc linkens (rosh spell immunity is same mechanic), it is that way so linkens can't be countered with a 1k item | ||
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hrough
Germany212 Posts
On September 10 2014 23:03 -Celestial- wrote: Thought just occurred to me after the Medallion comments last page. Medallion is used by Lycan to solo Rosh early. This is will known. Also, Roshan has spell immunity that you have to pop before you can (for example) hit him with Shackle or Hex or whatever. So...if Medallion goes through that...what is its interaction with Linkens? Does it go through that without popping it too? You got it wrong: Medalion doesn't go through the spell shield, it just has a lower cooldown than the spell shield. *edit: wtf? it does go through?? | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
I like the necronomicon archer's spell to break linkens, think it's underused. Also a pretty safe way of doing it. Edit: Necro level 1 still has the archer spell. So it cost 2700, also has long range because he runs fast and you can yolo a bit with it. Then upgrading it to level 3 for the damage / mana drain + more importantly the true sight. Dewarding with necro 3 is so nice. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Literally nobody would buy linkens if you could medallion it lol. It's a balance thing. E: Technically Maelstrom and Necro 1 both indirectly can proc linkens for 2700g as well, as can a helm of the dominator'd creep for 1850g. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 10 2014 23:35 SKC wrote: It used to, urn as well. People still bought it, but it was obviously a big issue. The only heroes that bought Linken's when this was the case were those heroes that absolutely had to for the regen/stats anyway. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
You dont get Linkens for the block, outside of extreme lategame scenarios or something very specific. You get it because you need stats and mana regen. The block is a bonus, and it helps that some heroes that need them also like being harder to gank. But heroes that dont need the stats hardly ever should get it, or you end up with the Linkens first Miranas that were popular some time ago for some reason. The stats are the key part of the item, and thats why it was still useful even when the block was far more vulnerable. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
no it wasn't good Linkens kinda needs both the regen and the block parts of it to be good. having the block part of it be always useless is really rough. I mean sure it was still purchased back in the day but it was pretty awful. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 11 2014 00:19 SKC wrote: Well, yes, but it wasnt a case of literally noone buying the item. It didnt make the item completelly useless. Even now people rarely get it outside of the heroes that absolutelly need the regen/stats. I mean it was all of 3 versions where Medallion existed and Linken's popped on it (6.70 Medallion added, 6.73 Linken's changed), which was less than a year of DotA. None of the "must-Linken" kind of heroes got played in that year except Morphling (by 6.72 the hero basically phased out) and none of the heroes that situationally got Linken's wanted it because it wasn't reliable vs. Urn+Medallion. Even Morphling play had a lot more movement toward BKB-first kind of play/etc. So ya, noone was buying the item because the heroes that had to buy it weren't being played, lol. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 11 2014 01:45 TheYango wrote: I mean it was all of 3 versions where Medallion existed and Linken's popped on it (6.70 Medallion added, 6.73 Linken's changed), which was less than a year of DotA. None of the "must-Linken" kind of heroes got played in that year really and none of the heroes that situationally got Linken's wanted it because it wasn't reliable vs. Urn+Medallion. So ya, noone was buying the item because the heroes that had to buy it weren't being played, lol. Well, Urn was added in 6.65 and the issue was fairly similar, even though it needs charges. He also just mentioned one of them. Either way if the heroes that got Linkens were being played, you would probally see linkens being picked up. It was more a metagame thing than the item being completelly useless. It was certainly being used in pubs, even by decent players. Im not exactly good at matching patch versions to popular strats, but I guess that in the AM era but before Morphling started being picked up. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
On September 10 2014 15:53 Unleashing wrote: Want me to go find TI2 replays where stats are gotten over maxing sprout? Because i can do that, lmao. It has NOTHING to do with bulldog and has been done for ages. Sure why not. lmao | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On September 11 2014 20:05 BobMcJohnson wrote: Does Sheepstick disable Elder Titan's aura? I believe so, but not the spirit aura | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
now its horrible but you know, old habits die hard. | ||
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