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On September 09 2014 10:59 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 09:18 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 07:18 Spacecoast8908 wrote:
Why do a lot of people take stats over multiple stats of sprout on Furion? The main reason is because AdmiralBulldog does it. Other reasons is that more levels of sprout doesnt help you farm faster while stats does and the actual reason is probably that it helps bulldog be more effective in teamfights as he usually takes pretty aggressive teleport locations and the extra tankiness gained from stats is more valuable then an extra second of a soft disable. keeping sprout lvl 1 was a thing way before bulldog was on the scene...
You didnt write a simple question but I will give you a simple answer anyway. Of course every build has been used before they gain public traction. My answer to the original question if you depersonalize is that most people use the builds that has been popularized by a professional player without really analyzing why they build their heroes the way they do.
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Why do LD players sometimes go for treads early on the druid (obviously). I tried asking a guy in game today but he got offended and didn't answer. I mean if you want to tank up that bad (usually they leave it on strength) why not get bracer or pms?
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On September 09 2014 14:30 ToastedBagel wrote:
Why do LD players sometimes go for treads early on the druid (obviously). I tried asking a guy in game today but he got offended and didn't answer. I mean if you want to tank up that bad (usually they leave it on strength) why not get bracer or pms?
Did he go for no bear strat? Though that usually has Phase for the MS.
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No they always have a bear...
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does instances of medallion of courage stack?
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If I pick Nature's Prophet and someone 'counter' picks Spirit Breaker, should I alter my build? It's very hard to split push against this hero, especially if he's smart and stays hidden.
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then smartly split push. you can man fight him if you have necro 3/scythe
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On September 09 2014 19:14 barrykp wrote:
If I pick Nature's Prophet and someone 'counter' picks Spirit Breaker, should I alter my build? It's very hard to split push against this hero, especially if he's smart and stays hidden.
Alter your playstyle more than your build. Be careful how deep into enemy territory you go and make sure you have TPs ready more than you would otherwise so you dont have to wait for teleport to cool down to escape if you're suspecting hes charging you.
There are some items you could consider though. Mek is one which isnt terrible if you're that kind of prophet. A ghost scepter can help too supposing you survive the initial burst. At lower MMRs i suspect SBs wont buy dust even if you've shown you got a shadow blade too. If you have slots for it you could pick up a casual bracer or something early game too. And consider treads over phase if you werent going treads already.
But its more about playstyle than items i'd say. And I wouldnt commit to any big tankyness items you dont think you'd want anyway. But a mix of the above could still make a difference i guess.
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On September 09 2014 16:22 SilverSkyLark wrote:
does instances of medallion of courage stack?
Pretty sure no, it just resets duration. So it's kinda pointless since Medallion has 100% uptime anyway
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On September 09 2014 11:51 njt7 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 10:59 synapse wrote:On September 09 2014 09:18 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 07:18 Spacecoast8908 wrote:
Why do a lot of people take stats over multiple stats of sprout on Furion? The main reason is because AdmiralBulldog does it. Other reasons is that more levels of sprout doesnt help you farm faster while stats does and the actual reason is probably that it helps bulldog be more effective in teamfights as he usually takes pretty aggressive teleport locations and the extra tankiness gained from stats is more valuable then an extra second of a soft disable. keeping sprout lvl 1 was a thing way before bulldog was on the scene... You didnt write a simple question but I will give you a simple answer anyway. Of course every build has been used before they gain public traction. My answer to the original question if you depersonalize is that most people use the builds that has been popularized by a professional player without really analyzing why they build their heroes the way they do.
Except it's common knowledge not to level sprout for like 5 years in dota now.
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Not maxing sprout and getting stats has been used in competitive dota since way before bulldog, lol. Like not just used in a single game, it's been used in competitive dota often.
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On September 09 2014 16:22 SilverSkyLark wrote:
does instances of medallion of courage stack?
They don't.
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On September 10 2014 00:41 Andre wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 11:51 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 10:59 synapse wrote:On September 09 2014 09:18 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 07:18 Spacecoast8908 wrote:
Why do a lot of people take stats over multiple stats of sprout on Furion? The main reason is because AdmiralBulldog does it. Other reasons is that more levels of sprout doesnt help you farm faster while stats does and the actual reason is probably that it helps bulldog be more effective in teamfights as he usually takes pretty aggressive teleport locations and the extra tankiness gained from stats is more valuable then an extra second of a soft disable. keeping sprout lvl 1 was a thing way before bulldog was on the scene... You didnt write a simple question but I will give you a simple answer anyway. Of course every build has been used before they gain public traction. My answer to the original question if you depersonalize is that most people use the builds that has been popularized by a professional player without really analyzing why they build their heroes the way they do. Except it's common knowledge not to level sprout for like 5 years in dota now.
Then tell me why they maxed sprout in the grand final of The International 2011 and 2012 but didnt 2013?
Afaik furion was never a popular competetive pick in dota 1. I dont really see this 5 year period that you are talking about. 2 years seem more reasonable to me.
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On September 10 2014 08:28 njt7 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 00:41 Andre wrote:On September 09 2014 11:51 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 10:59 synapse wrote:On September 09 2014 09:18 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 07:18 Spacecoast8908 wrote:
Why do a lot of people take stats over multiple stats of sprout on Furion? The main reason is because AdmiralBulldog does it. Other reasons is that more levels of sprout doesnt help you farm faster while stats does and the actual reason is probably that it helps bulldog be more effective in teamfights as he usually takes pretty aggressive teleport locations and the extra tankiness gained from stats is more valuable then an extra second of a soft disable. keeping sprout lvl 1 was a thing way before bulldog was on the scene... You didnt write a simple question but I will give you a simple answer anyway. Of course every build has been used before they gain public traction. My answer to the original question if you depersonalize is that most people use the builds that has been popularized by a professional player without really analyzing why they build their heroes the way they do. Except it's common knowledge not to level sprout for like 5 years in dota now. Then tell me why they maxed sprout in the grand final of The International 2011 and 2012 but didnt 2013? Afaik furion was never a popular competetive pick in dota 1. I dont really see this 5 year period that you are talking about. 2 years seem more reasonable to me.
It depends on the rest of the lineup. You put your points into stats or sprout depending on whether you need more cc or more dmg.
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Furion was very much a competitive pick in China during various phases of DotA1, though it was never must pick/ban
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As life got busier, I find myself playing less and watching/browsing forums more which has created a noticeable divide between my theoretical knowledge of the game and my ability to apply that knowledge in game. Assuming I only have time for 3-4 games a week, is it possible to span that divide? What would be the best way to go about doing it?
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guys njt7 is swedish
naturally he wants to think bulldog revolutionised furion by getting only 1 point in sprout
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NEVER MIND. Many pages too late.
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On September 10 2014 08:28 njt7 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 00:41 Andre wrote:On September 09 2014 11:51 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 10:59 synapse wrote:On September 09 2014 09:18 njt7 wrote:On September 09 2014 07:18 Spacecoast8908 wrote:
Why do a lot of people take stats over multiple stats of sprout on Furion? The main reason is because AdmiralBulldog does it. Other reasons is that more levels of sprout doesnt help you farm faster while stats does and the actual reason is probably that it helps bulldog be more effective in teamfights as he usually takes pretty aggressive teleport locations and the extra tankiness gained from stats is more valuable then an extra second of a soft disable. keeping sprout lvl 1 was a thing way before bulldog was on the scene... You didnt write a simple question but I will give you a simple answer anyway. Of course every build has been used before they gain public traction. My answer to the original question if you depersonalize is that most people use the builds that has been popularized by a professional player without really analyzing why they build their heroes the way they do. Except it's common knowledge not to level sprout for like 5 years in dota now. Then tell me why they maxed sprout in the grand final of The International 2011 and 2012 but didnt 2013? Afaik furion was never a popular competetive pick in dota 1. I dont really see this 5 year period that you are talking about. 2 years seem more reasonable to me.
Want me to go find TI2 replays where stats are gotten over maxing sprout? Because i can do that, lmao.
It has NOTHING to do with bulldog and has been done for ages.
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