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Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
August 04 2014 20:21 GMT
#18661
On August 05 2014 05:17 Fumanchu wrote:
And Duel. Duel seems so OP. It disables the vast amount of passives. As far as I know the following abilities don't work:


It is mute same as doom it disables http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Silence#Mute
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
August 04 2014 20:23 GMT
#18662
On August 05 2014 05:21 Jaeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 05:17 Fumanchu wrote:
And Duel. Duel seems so OP. It disables the vast amount of passives. As far as I know the following abilities don't work:


It is mute same as doom it disables http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Silence#Mute


Ah thanks for that.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 20:59:21
August 04 2014 20:58 GMT
#18663
On August 05 2014 05:14 Jaeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 04:54 wuhan_clan wrote:
You cannot disjoint homing missile with Blink.
You can dodge it with Manta or with Invisibility (going invis after missile is cast). The missile will still follow you on the map and "hit", making the impact sound but will not stun or do damage.



Balance changelog
6.81
Homing Missile now hits invisible units.


Heat-Seeking Missile is tinker's missile btw and it is disjointed by blink.


Ah, forgot about that change. Invis does indeed no longer work. Dmg and stun both applied.

Homing Missile and Tinker Missile are 100% NOT the same thing, while the former cannot be blink dodged and the latter can.
Tested in-game.
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 21:40:46
August 04 2014 21:36 GMT
#18664
Legion Commander is well above average popularity in pub games. She also has a relatively low win rate, which means she's actually overplayed rather than underplayed.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 04 2014 21:46 GMT
#18665
LC has the whole duel -> feeding enemy carry 20 damage thing too.

She's played a lot in pubs because people think they need to 1v5 and get a ton of damage from duel to do it.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 04 2014 22:13 GMT
#18666
The biggest problem with LC is 80% are still jungling with her.
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
August 04 2014 22:48 GMT
#18667
Or jungling without getting something like Bottle as first farmed item. But shit, Overwhelming Odds is fucking sick right now.
Erase and improve
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 23:04:29
August 04 2014 23:02 GMT
#18668
What's a good timing for hitting 6 as a jungling Legion Commander? Or as a dedicated level 1 jungler in general?
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 23:18:55
August 04 2014 23:10 GMT
#18669
My timing in this thread is weird. I've always hated LC but have been playing her mid and safe/jungle a lot and tearing people up. Anyway, my question is do aoe ults/abilities kill couriers? Bonus question: does lich's ult bounce to couriers if they're in range?
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 23:38:35
August 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#18670
According to the wiki, Earthshsaker's Echo Slam, the splash on Elder Dragon Form attacks and Warlock's Chaotic Offering* are the only non-Cleave AoE abilities that damage couriers. And Chain Frost can target a courier for the first hit but cannot bounce to one.

However, flying a courier into a black hole is very likely to get it killed.


*On a technicality. Damage comes from the summoned unit's attacks, not the AoE component
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 04 2014 23:24 GMT
#18671
On August 05 2014 08:10 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Anyway, my question is do aoe ults/abilities kill couriers? Bonus question: does lich's ult bounce to couriers if they're in range?

AoE ults doesnt kill couriers.
Only thing you can kill them with is physical attack afaik. You can slow them down though with Beastmaster roar, Shadow demon ult and naga net. Might have forgotten something.

Pretty sure lich ult doesn't bounce to courier, but will bounce to visage's birds.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 01:22:27
August 05 2014 01:20 GMT
#18672
On August 05 2014 08:02 Buckyman wrote:
What's a good timing for hitting 6 as a jungling Legion Commander? Or as a dedicated level 1 jungler in general?


http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/jungle-legion-commander-in-6-80-hysterical-and-useless/

Jungle LC hasn't really worked since 6.80 hit.

And besides, LC is a pretty capable 1v1 laner, don't waste her laning power in the jungle.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
August 05 2014 07:58 GMT
#18673
Since naga's mirror image grants invulnerability, is it theoretically possible for naga to dodge a clockwerk ministun and cast song?

Naga has a cast time of 0.65 seconds while clockwerk has 0.2 second ministuns every 0.7 seconds. By those numbers, it is possible to time the mirror image to end within 0.05 seconds after the ministun and cast song. Did I do this right?
The Turtle Moves
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 05 2014 08:03 GMT
#18674
That's so next level rofl
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NeoRussia
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada381 Posts
August 05 2014 08:52 GMT
#18675
All that math is defeated when you consider mirror image gets you out of both cogs and battery anyway lol.

You shouldn't be jungling with LC. She is currently one of the best laneing heroes in the game, her offlane is about par with pre-nerf phoenix when played correctly.
#BUFFEARTH
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 08:59:39
August 05 2014 08:59 GMT
#18676
On August 05 2014 08:24 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 08:10 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Anyway, my question is do aoe ults/abilities kill couriers? Bonus question: does lich's ult bounce to couriers if they're in range?

AoE ults doesnt kill couriers.
Only thing you can kill them with is physical attack afaik. You can slow them down though with Beastmaster roar, Shadow demon ult and naga net. Might have forgotten something.

Pretty sure lich ult doesn't bounce to courier, but will bounce to visage's birds.


axe can dunk couriers, which is amazing
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 05 2014 09:02 GMT
#18677
Couriers can get caught in black hole as well
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 05 2014 12:52 GMT
#18678
roar stuns them tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 05 2014 14:18 GMT
#18679
On August 05 2014 17:59 ahw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 08:24 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On August 05 2014 08:10 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Anyway, my question is do aoe ults/abilities kill couriers? Bonus question: does lich's ult bounce to couriers if they're in range?

AoE ults doesnt kill couriers.
Only thing you can kill them with is physical attack afaik. You can slow them down though with Beastmaster roar, Shadow demon ult and naga net. Might have forgotten something.

Pretty sure lich ult doesn't bounce to courier, but will bounce to visage's birds.


axe can dunk couriers, which is amazing


Does that grant the bonuses from a dunk kill (no cd, move/as boosts)?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 05 2014 15:33 GMT
#18680
On August 05 2014 16:58 GtC wrote:
Since naga's mirror image grants invulnerability, is it theoretically possible for naga to dodge a clockwerk ministun and cast song?

Naga has a cast time of 0.65 seconds while clockwerk has 0.2 second ministuns every 0.7 seconds. By those numbers, it is possible to time the mirror image to end within 0.05 seconds after the ministun and cast song. Did I do this right?

Mirror Image uses your animation too, it's not instant.
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