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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 05 2014 15:43 GMT
#18681
Yeah any time you could cast mirror image you could cast song
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
August 05 2014 15:48 GMT
#18682
On August 05 2014 07:13 Kreb wrote:
The biggest problem with LC is 80% are still jungling with her.


Yep, never ever jungle LC. This is just another example of the average pub player being way behind in his information. Sure, she could and can jungle starting at level 1, but that doesn't make it the best decision. After her 6.80 changes, she's strongest as a solo mid where she can easily dominate and level quickly. Certain sidelane combos would also be beneficial (I mean she's great anywhere, but for optimal effectiveness) like Wisp+LC.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 05 2014 15:58 GMT
#18683
On August 05 2014 23:18 Logo wrote:
Does that grant the bonuses from a dunk kill (no cd, move/as boosts)?

The CD reset applies specifically to killing heroes. The MS/AS boosts apply on a successful kill regardless of the target (this includes using Culling Blade on creeps).
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 16:38:48
August 05 2014 16:37 GMT
#18684
I do prefer lane LC to jungle LC. However, sometimes pub lanes happen and I'm the 4th hardest carry on the team. So please answer the question - what timings should I be able to hit?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 16:40:46
August 05 2014 16:40 GMT
#18685
On August 06 2014 01:37 Buckyman wrote:
I do prefer lane LC to jungle LC. However, sometimes pub lanes happen and I'm the 4th hardest carry on the team. So please answer the question - what timings should I try to hit?

In that case play support LC where you use heal and nuke to contribute and treat duel as a disable rather than a damage acquisition tool (although be careful that you don't feed them dmg obviously). Heal takes off stuns and stuff it's mega good.

I don't know exact timings beyond "fucking slow" but you probably will be faster chain-pulling (plus autoattacks) than just jungling. Also you should never really be satisfied with your jungle, always aim for faster optimizations.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 06 2014 01:48 GMT
#18686
The heal is great! You're like Abaddon except you have heal and remove debuff in one skill rather than two.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
August 06 2014 08:20 GMT
#18687
Should I always get a Magic Wand, or at least a Magic Stick, or just get it when enemy team has heroes who spam spells? When should I skip it completely?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 08:23:20
August 06 2014 08:21 GMT
#18688
Personal preferrence

On August 06 2014 09:47 icystorage wrote:
there's like a flow chart for that

1.Do you need stick?

if no, don't buy it
if yes, buy it

2. Do you have branches in your inventory?

if no, don't upgrade it
if yes, upgrade it


also i buy it on certain heroes that needed the last 'umph' like

WK - Resurrection and Wraith Blast
PL - doppel walk
Jugg -omni and spin
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7751 Posts
August 06 2014 08:43 GMT
#18689
On August 06 2014 17:21 icystorage wrote:
Personal preferrence

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 09:47 icystorage wrote:
there's like a flow chart for that

1.Do you need stick?

if no, don't buy it
if yes, buy it

2. Do you have branches in your inventory?

if no, don't upgrade it
if yes, upgrade it


also i buy it on certain heroes that needed the last 'umph' like

WK - Resurrection and Wraith Blast
PL - doppel walk
Jugg -omni and spin


Makes sense, thanks
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 06 2014 12:35 GMT
#18690
It's only a 200 gold investment, if it saves your life once you come out ahead. You shouldn't be so inventory hungry in the first 25 minutes that you can't get one
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 20:59:45
August 06 2014 20:29 GMT
#18691
this may sound like a retarded question but what determines on what side heros end up after fissuring? I have played a bit earth shaker recently and quite often if you hit a hero with the edge of the fissure they get pushed over the whole fissure and end up on the other side without terrain in the way. So why does this happen?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 06 2014 20:31 GMT
#18692
Unless you have proof of something else, I'm assuming it simply puts the hero on the side he's nearest.
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
August 06 2014 21:05 GMT
#18693
On August 07 2014 05:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Unless you have proof of something else, I'm assuming it simply puts the hero on the side he's nearest.


i can't record it but my games my best guess is it is either lag related or has some shackle esque mechanics and if you target a hero where he ends up is determined at the second you fissure and not when the fissure actually lands.
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
August 06 2014 22:07 GMT
#18694
dont click on heroes problem solved.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
August 06 2014 22:34 GMT
#18695
So in playing around in bot games I found out that you can deny the radiant safelane creeps with pudge in the same way you can with rubick lift and have level four at 4 minutes. Is there any way this would be viable?
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
August 06 2014 23:23 GMT
#18696
On August 07 2014 07:34 giftdgecko wrote:
So in playing around in bot games I found out that you can deny the radiant safelane creeps with pudge in the same way you can with rubick lift and have level four at 4 minutes. Is there any way this would be viable?


IDK, seems silly. Maybe if the safelane duo is something like warlock or abba/luna so that you have a carry that can easily tower cs and a support who can keep him alive from dives/creep damage. Feels really gimmicky though and the offlaner could come and pull the creeps away from you
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
August 06 2014 23:57 GMT
#18697
I agree it is a bit gimmicky but I also can't see an offlaner coming to the furthest large camp for one out of every 3 waves. Generally I am lvl 4 at about 4:20 and have brown boots and gold to spare; and I'm not good with pudge... It just seemed crazy to me that I was on par with mid xp wise
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 07 2014 02:48 GMT
#18698
why Necrophos have 60% win rate in pubs?
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 02:57:12
August 07 2014 02:54 GMT
#18699
On August 07 2014 11:48 rei wrote:
why Necrophos have 60% win rate in pubs?

Combination of everything strong about him. Just read his skills/stats.

People like to single out stuff like "oh his ult is so op because it prevents buyback and doesn't afraid of any hp" or "his passive is like infinite sustain and mana" or "his Q is like a free mek so mek is the best item on him." Sometimes the extra death timer on his ult probably helps his team fight with a numbers advantage.

But if we didn't have dotabuff he'd probably be considered weak in pubs because he has no escape and is squishy.
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ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
August 07 2014 07:46 GMT
#18700
On August 07 2014 11:54 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 11:48 rei wrote:
why Necrophos have 60% win rate in pubs?

Combination of everything strong about him. Just read his skills/stats.

People like to single out stuff like "oh his ult is so op because it prevents buyback and doesn't afraid of any hp" or "his passive is like infinite sustain and mana" or "his Q is like a free mek so mek is the best item on him." Sometimes the extra death timer on his ult probably helps his team fight with a numbers advantage.

But if we didn't have dotabuff he'd probably be considered weak in pubs because he has no escape and is squishy.


He's also the most death-bally hero in the pool. He naturally has ridiculously high sustain with heal and mek and his passive. when someone plays necro, everyone else on the team understands that they just gotta run at towers and force fights.

At low levels where these stats get inflated, people tend to try to fight head on 5 on 5 instead of avoiding certain destruction / waiting for item timings.
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