• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:33
CEST 09:33
KST 16:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202562RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension5
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Server Blocker Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
Simple editing of Brood War save files? (.mlx) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food!
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 742 users

[Hero] Nature's Prophet - Page 2

Forum Index > Dota 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
September 05 2012 15:01 GMT
#21
I really like Stygian on NP. The potential to increase overall physical DPS for your team fits well with Furion's ganker role, and the -armor really helps pushing and roshing. The -armor and +dmg is so big if you can get it early you'll snowball hard into the lategame.
Castleshift
Profile Joined July 2012
Great Britain17 Posts
September 09 2012 06:31 GMT
#22
The real problem that I have with Furion is how much to gank around the map when jungling? I know that's should but I often find myself tping in and just waiting for the right moment. Thanks for any help you can provide.
youtube.com/castleshift
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
September 09 2012 08:53 GMT
#23
You should always gank around the map, as much as possible. But, only when there is a good chance of getting a kill/saving a teammate.

Deciding when to tp depends on map awareness and communication. Ask your teammates to either tell you when they are planning to kill someone, or to ping when you are needed.

Jungling requires minimal attention so you can spend a lot of time watching the map/minimap. When you see action you usually have to quickly decide if there is any use for you to tp. In other words will your ally or the enemy die regardless of what you do.

The best general way to do it is to keep farming while keeping an eye on your target. Wait for a good opportunity to tp, like when your allied hero is close to the enemy hero, or the enemy hero is out in the open. If during the time you are tping they move away or other heroes show up, just cancel your tp.

Also you have to be smart with where you tp. It's not always advisable to tp next to someone as it gives them time to prepare by either running away or casting spells instantly. It's best to tp in next to trees, preferably slightly out of sight, while still as close to the hero as possible. This usually doesn't alert them to your presence until you are already attacking them.

When coordinating with your team, it is usually best to tp a little bit behind the enemy, so that if they run away from your teammates, you can still sprout them. But be careful not to tp in too far back, or they might focus on you before your teammates can help.

PS it's generally best to tp in when its needed and not hiding/waiting until you can pounce.


Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
September 09 2012 09:58 GMT
#24
question: When I Jungle which camps should i clear at what levels?
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
September 09 2012 10:13 GMT
#25
How do you counter this guy ? I swear he destroys pug games. There is just no way you can convince people to carry a TP scroll on them. And even then they expect a support to go stop hiim from pushing, even when he's got a Orchid/Maelstrom etc.

I killed him twice @10 minutes into the game even, but I guess he's just too strong because 3 minutes later he came out with an Orchid >.>
_HypeR_
Profile Joined January 2012
France83 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 11:43:13
September 09 2012 11:41 GMT
#26
On September 09 2012 19:13 Mondieu wrote:
How do you counter this guy ? I swear he destroys pug games. There is just no way you can convince people to carry a TP scroll on them. And even then they expect a support to go stop hiim from pushing, even when he's got a Orchid/Maelstrom etc.

I killed him twice @10 minutes into the game even, but I guess he's just too strong because 3 minutes later he came out with an Orchid >.>


The mid hero in your team has to gank him, he doesnt have high hp and with some disable is dead that's why also this hero is banned a lot in cm mode , also just get lycanthrope it's the same kind of bullshit :D
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 09 2012 11:46 GMT
#27
Furion is my go to IREALLYWANTAWINRIGHTNOW hero.

Jungle him

GG branches, clarities etc, go jungle.

Is my team good?Midas>>Boots>>Meka>>Whatever team needs
Is my team bad?Midas>>treads>agha>Mjol/BKB+MKB/Buriza.

Usually I go

Level 1 treants
Level 2 TP
Level 3 Treants
Level 4 Sprout

Max TP after that while taking ult at 6, max treants and then get stats.
WriterXiao8~~
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
September 09 2012 12:43 GMT
#28
On September 09 2012 18:58 Enema wrote:
question: When I Jungle which camps should i clear at what levels?


Cast treants 7 seconds before the timer reaches 0. With a 37 second cooldown you can cast them again at 00:30 when the creeps spawn. With those you can kill any large camp. If you have treants over (should be 2 at nearly full hp unless you got ursa camp) go kill the small camp. Next up kill either a medium or a big camp with a new cast of treants and some kiting yourself.

You are now lvl 3 and should have plenty of mana/treants/damage to kill any camp you want, enjoy!
Samurice
Profile Joined September 2012
United States12 Posts
September 09 2012 15:04 GMT
#29
On September 09 2012 19:13 Mondieu wrote:
How do you counter this guy ? I swear he destroys pug games. There is just no way you can convince people to carry a TP scroll on them. And even then they expect a support to go stop hiim from pushing, even when he's got a Orchid/Maelstrom etc.

I killed him twice @10 minutes into the game even, but I guess he's just too strong because 3 minutes later he came out with an Orchid >.>


With an average GPM of 440 (https://dotabuff.com/heroes/economy), Nature's Prophet is undoubtedly the fastest farmer in the game. Assuming you're playing against your average, Midas-toting, holla holla get dolla pub style Nature's Profit, killing him a few times will not be enough to keep him down.

Instead, you must take advantage of two important factors, namely Nature's Prophet's shortcomings as a carry and his tendency to deprive his team of farm or safety with Wrath of Nature. The best way to do this is to save a stun (Cold Snap, Storm Bolt, Scythe of Vyse, etc.) for Furion and then chain stun/focus him as soon as he dares to show up and right click on anything. This takes some coordination, but is an effective counter as most pub Furions are too concerned with DPS to bother buying BKB. After he's dead, you simply have to watch out for buyback -> Teleport again and dispose of his teammates (who are probably underfarmed thanks to his efforts).

Lastly don't forget to always carry Tangoes, Quelling Blade or Force Staff too. No reason to grant Nature's Prophet access to a disable he doesn't deserve.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 09 2012 16:55 GMT
#30
Worst feeling in the game. You play a support without any farming ability, you spend a whole minute trying to clear a creep camp, and a nature profit ulti steals the last hits >< Makes you insta hate the hero.
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
September 09 2012 17:11 GMT
#31
What I noticed: He was casting his teleport ( not the portal ) and I stunned him as WD; then he proceeded teleport again. Is there no CD on it if you cancel it ?
Samurice
Profile Joined September 2012
United States12 Posts
September 09 2012 17:31 GMT
#32
On September 10 2012 02:11 Mondieu wrote:
What I noticed: He was casting his teleport ( not the portal ) and I stunned him as WD; then he proceeded teleport again. Is there no CD on it if you cancel it ?


None; it will immediately resume after Furion recovers from a stun. In addition, he can cancel his Teleport mid cast (with "S") without putting Teleport on cooldown as well. In practice this makes escaping from Furion next to impossible as he can stop and re-position his Teleport attempts endlessly in response to any attempts to juke him.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 09 2012 22:23 GMT
#33
what time should i be getting my hand of midas on jungle?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Samurice
Profile Joined September 2012
United States12 Posts
September 09 2012 22:53 GMT
#34
On September 10 2012 07:23 CeriseCherries wrote:
what time should i be getting my hand of midas on jungle?


8 minutes or less.
fireproofazn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States231 Posts
September 09 2012 22:57 GMT
#35
ewww nature profit. his ult it seriously the most annoying thing which ever team you are on. -.-
Terran<Protoss<Zerg
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 10 2012 03:27 GMT
#36
it's not uncommon for prophet to also be put mid. definitely not as popular as jungling, but with a maxed out teleport only a few minutes into the game, it can lead into really amazing ganks all over the map and returning to the lane to farm. try it out sometime ( with friends or else dumb people might start frothing at the mouth)
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
September 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#37
On September 09 2012 19:13 Mondieu wrote:
How do you counter this guy ? I swear he destroys pug games. There is just no way you can convince people to carry a TP scroll on them. And even then they expect a support to go stop hiim from pushing, even when he's got a Orchid/Maelstrom etc.

I killed him twice @10 minutes into the game even, but I guess he's just too strong because 3 minutes later he came out with an Orchid >.>


Apart from the things, that already have been mentioned, like Tangoes, QB, FS and some gameplays there's another thing I really love to do against a Furion:
Get 1-2 of your teammates to smoke up and wait at a big creepwave Furion is most likely going to farm soon. As soon as he [most likely] teleported there, thinking it's safe to farm, your smoke gets revealed and BAM! You just crush that gold-greedy prick. Also works well against a Tinker.

Herowise I can highly suggest Storm or anything with long range initiation abilities. Zipping in from afar, nuking him down and save your stun in case he's trying to TP out. Else you might need a teammate with a stun or something like Orchid / Hex.
Pudge 1.2k range hook also is decent, but can be hard to pull off. A Sandking with Blink+Burrowstrike has ~1.7k initiaton range. Generally speaking anyone, who can suddenly show up and punch Furion's face.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
September 10 2012 13:47 GMT
#38
I love watching furions try to tp out when they have cold snap on them.
Moderator
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 10 2012 13:58 GMT
#39
Nature's Prophet is one of those heroes that I really hate playing against. So overpowered lol.
Brood War loyalist
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
August 14 2013 16:27 GMT
#40
I love Furion. My favorite hero, one thing I suck at though is when I lane with him. Most of the in game guides are jungle guides. Does anyone ever lane with him more than jungle?
Luppa <3
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft752
Nina 193
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3919
firebathero 353
Larva 296
ToSsGirL 160
Zeus 81
Dewaltoss 81
Free 51
Mind 20
ivOry 4
Dota 2
XcaliburYe313
League of Legends
JimRising 665
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor163
Other Games
summit1g4664
Fuzer 219
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick940
BasetradeTV40
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH245
• LUISG 12
• Adnapsc2 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2156
League of Legends
• Lourlo1042
Other Games
• Scarra1580
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
2h 27m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6h 27m
CSO Cup
8h 27m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
10h 27m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
1d 1h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 6h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 10h
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Esports World Cup 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL Team Wars
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.