[Hero] Invoker - Page 16

On April 26 2015 21:21 ahswtini wrote:
implying manta is a carry item?

On April 26 2015 16:34 bardtown wrote:
Been playing 1 position invoker recently. More or less standard but I really go all out on the split push instead of building aghanims or similar. So:

Midas,
Necro 1,
Travels,
Necro 3,
Manta,
AC,
Hex

I think this is possibly the best rat hero/build in the entire game. Like prophet but your summons actually do damage, you have invisibility without buying a shadow blade and you have a lot more utility especially in defending your base. You can drop your combo, do a lot of damage and clear a creep wave, then tp to a sidelane and split push really fast. I like to drop my spirits/manta all the time, and save my necrobook for a fight/tower. They need to use a big hero to stop spirits/necrobook. If some support tries to stop this push they can die to the summons/sunstrike.

I'm really having fun with this.

On April 27 2015 03:40 nojok wrote:

It was played quite a bit in progames 3 or 4 patches ago, when heroes were overall slower, but they usually went for forecestaff or dagger after necrobooks and then hex/BKB. You never want BKB on any hero, but you just can't skip it more often than not. It was still focused on grouping with your team to take early towers thanks to necro+forged, ask a drow pick if you want to end the game really fast :p

On April 27 2015 06:29 bardtown wrote:


But ratting is so much more fun :D and I don't need the BKB because I don't need to stay on the lane once spirits and manta illusions are down. Dagger could definitely be useful but I don't think it's necessary if you're careful about where you tp.

On April 27 2015 16:28 ViZe wrote:
idk if anyone has touched on this since it's worked this way for a while but because urn is pure damage now it triggers cold snap. at first thought it doesn't seem that good but both have such a long range and the stuns trigger as quickly as possible because of the continuous damage that you could actually use it to initiate on solo heroes without using tornado

On April 27 2015 15:55 DucK- wrote:
I never liked when players go for a fixed build/style. Every time my ally picks prophet and says I will split push this game, I know its a crap prophet that doesn't adapt and that I have loss the game from the start.

On April 27 2015 17:12 bardtown wrote:


Probably your attitude killing the game as opposed to the prophet :p. A lot of heroes have only one way to play. Invoker has many many, but you should have a plan from the start as to which route you will take, and if somebody has worked out their own build that they like and know how to play then your chances of winning should be going up not down.

Urn seems like a great item if you're playing offlane or something. I guess mid too, seeing as you're not going to pick up a bottle.

Edit: As for manta. It probably is a bit of a gimmick. I like to be able to drop 6 units and gtfo. There are situations where this probably would be the best item choice: they have silences and not much aoe perhaps. Generally though AC may well be the better item.

On June 17 2015 13:53 Fencar wrote:
I don't think it's better "in general" if it gives X benefits while aghs gives Y benefits.