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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 06 2014 17:19 GMT
#41
Even if the lineup isn't suitable for Linken's, Skadi 1st item is a better source of all-stats than Bloodstone.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 06 2014 17:59 GMT
#42
On April 07 2014 02:03 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Is Soul Ring legit on a free-farming safe lane Morph? It allows you to farm the jungle at insane speeds and gives you enough mana to go straight to an E-blade afterwards.

Also, Bloodstone Morph? If the enemy lineup isn't suitable for Linkens. The respawn timer reduction is so good late game and Morph can make good use of pure +health. The mana reg can get a little over the board if you build up charges though.


SR is legit. The rate at which Morph farms is dependent on how often he can spam Waveform. SR is a good item for that purpose, although many swear by solely Bottle usage + Aquila.
juracule
Profile Joined November 2013
292 Posts
April 06 2014 18:16 GMT
#43
ye get sr over aquila, aquila falls off p quickly in terms of mana regen cuz morph gets so many stats (and the added wraith band also contributes to that), so i'd just go tango salve rop 3x branch early, turn rop into basilius, then at like lvl 7-8 u can turn it into a soul ring and just keep the rop for some time.
hrough
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany212 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 14:36:16
April 07 2014 14:35 GMT
#44
On April 07 2014 02:07 Zarathusta wrote:
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On April 06 2014 22:17 hrough wrote:

PS: Still confused why Drums are a "never get" on Morph, i'd rather build Drums on Morph than on other, not that stat-based heroes. Not saying one should go always Drums on Morph.


I believe the theory is that Drums is essentially a discounted Ultimate Orb*. Since Linken's is a core Morph item, unlike on carries such as AM, spending 1775 on a Drum is a waste when for 325 more you can get the same item + build it into your first big core item.

*Yes I know they are not the same.



Thx, that was helpful. I guess i should start building Linken's on Morph like Bfury on Am and get it every single game, that way i don't start wondering if i shouldn't get Drums on him anymore...
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 15:45:54
April 07 2014 15:45 GMT
#45
On April 07 2014 23:35 hrough wrote:
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On April 07 2014 02:07 Zarathusta wrote:
On April 06 2014 22:17 hrough wrote:

PS: Still confused why Drums are a "never get" on Morph, i'd rather build Drums on Morph than on other, not that stat-based heroes. Not saying one should go always Drums on Morph.


I believe the theory is that Drums is essentially a discounted Ultimate Orb*. Since Linken's is a core Morph item, unlike on carries such as AM, spending 1775 on a Drum is a waste when for 325 more you can get the same item + build it into your first big core item.

*Yes I know they are not the same.



Thx, that was helpful. I guess i should start building Linken's on Morph like Bfury on Am and get it every single game, that way i don't start wondering if i shouldn't get Drums on him anymore...


Not rly.
There are games when you absolutely don't need Linkens and i'm pretty tired of people thinking that they can go linkens on Weaver/Morphling every game as first item even if there is no target stuns/cc in opposite team.

Sometimes manta as first item after pt is very legit, sometimes you get bkb which negates possibility of linken purchase almost for 100%, sometimes you just go eblade-butterfly when game is easy.

Manta, bkb and linken are pretty similar in case that you need them to survive, but getting all 3 make you ridiculously sad in damage output.


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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 07 2014 15:49 GMT
#46
Linkens is not core on morph. The most important item is a relatively early eblade. It just so happens that linken is very useful in morph in many cases. It pains me however whenever I see a morph get linkens against a lineup with little single target lock down.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 07 2014 15:54 GMT
#47
Even if ur opponents have actual 0 single target lockdown, linkens is still fine on morph. A) there's gonna be a hex or orchid in the game eventually B) you need the mana. Sure, there are games where you can't afford to farm for all of linkens+eblade and those games you have to go earlier fighting shit but that doesn't really have to do with what linkens blocks or not.

PS: I still think orchid morph is pretty good for a build that I've never seen anybody attempt.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 15:56:27
April 07 2014 15:54 GMT
#48
On April 08 2014 00:49 DucK- wrote:
Linkens is not core on morph. The most important item is a relatively early eblade. It just so happens that linken is very useful in morph in many cases. It pains me however whenever I see a morph get linkens against a lineup with little single target lock down.


Eblade is pretty volatile item, because you spend 4900 while having no combat stats outside of shotgun, so you're like, let's say, Lina, who just casted everything and she ran away.

Imho manta style -> eblade is most competent build on Morphling, which works with almost everything.

On April 08 2014 00:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Even if ur opponents have actual 0 single target lockdown, linkens is still fine on morph. A) there's gonna be a hex or orchid in the game eventually B) you need the mana. Sure, there are games where you can't afford to farm for all of linkens+eblade and those games you have to go earlier fighting shit but that doesn't really have to do with what linkens blocks or not.

PS: I still think orchid morph is pretty good for a build that I've never seen anybody attempt.


If your team can do at least anything, you won't die in that hex having manta/bkb/not 1 agility.
And Morphling's cooldowns aren't competent enough to spam abilities anyway.

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 15:57:28
April 07 2014 15:55 GMT
#49
40 agi 10 str is combat stats on morph bro.

manta -> eblade pretty much means u cant even cast all ur spells + items lol.
On April 08 2014 00:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
And Morphling's cooldowns aren't competent enough to spam abilities anyway.

Have you ever played morph?
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 08 2014 05:00 GMT
#50
There's no reason to get linkens just for the mana regen, considering that soul ring is enough for that purpose. You end up spending 5k gold on an item that serves little purpose early on.

Manta as usual is a shit item to be getting as a first item. Yasha is good, manta is horrible.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 08 2014 08:08 GMT
#51
you simply go linkens first because you want to max wave and morph before strike and if you're not super terrible you will get linkens + eblade around 14/15
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 15:30:25
April 08 2014 15:29 GMT
#52
On April 08 2014 17:08 Erasme wrote:
you simply go linkens first because you want to max wave and morph before strike and if you're not super terrible you will get linkens + eblade around 14/15


Linkens and eblade at 15 minute? You're a God it seems.

On April 08 2014 00:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
40 agi 10 str is combat stats on morph bro.

manta -> eblade pretty much means u cant even cast all ur spells + items lol.
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 00:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
And Morphling's cooldowns aren't competent enough to spam abilities anyway.

Have you ever played morph?


I fight with Morph and not staying 40 minutes farming before doing something.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
April 08 2014 15:31 GMT
#53
On April 08 2014 17:08 Erasme wrote:
you simply go linkens first because you want to max wave and morph before strike and if you're not super terrible you will get linkens + eblade around 14/15


how're you supposed to get linkens + eblade in 14/15 minutes consistently
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 08 2014 15:33 GMT
#54
1) English please.
2) Linkens + Eblade finishes around LEVEL 14-16, which is exactly where you want it. People who rush e-blade and finish it at level 11 still can't combo people properly for like 3 levels.

However, indicating that it takes you 40 mins to farm 10K gold is helpful in establishing where your misunderstandings lie.
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Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
April 08 2014 17:14 GMT
#55
Sick burn.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
April 08 2014 21:03 GMT
#56
Ohhh shit
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
April 08 2014 21:54 GMT
#57
On April 08 2014 17:08 Erasme wrote:
you simply go linkens first because you want to max wave and morph before strike and if you're not super terrible you will get linkens + eblade around 14/15

Building on this, if you are getting EB first, get a midas as you'll get EB before you hit 14, and you'll feel pretty stupid. (I'm a fan of bottle midas bots EB, though I only do that when im bored).
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 09 2014 00:13 GMT
#58
On April 09 2014 00:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
1) English please.
2) Linkens + Eblade finishes around LEVEL 14-16, which is exactly where you want it. People who rush e-blade and finish it at level 11 still can't combo people properly for like 3 levels.

However, indicating that it takes you 40 mins to farm 10K gold is helpful in establishing where your misunderstandings lie.


Ohwell, no reason to argue with Lesotho's guys, they're not messing up.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 08:54:50
April 09 2014 08:54 GMT
#59
Stop the personal rubbish in this thread please.
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Kaeru
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Sweden552 Posts
May 03 2014 03:36 GMT
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