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On August 19 2014 02:20 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 01:53 DucK- wrote:On August 18 2014 10:45 Belisarius wrote:
Most blink initiators skip upgraded boots now, but legion actually wants her treads, so her blink will be slightly slower than a puck's. Why do you really want your treads? I'd get a blink rush over treads first any day, especially when your first few duels should be done with allies. The problem with switch treads is that you want that attack speed in the duel and that extra HP and damage. Unless other heroes that rush blink(Puck, Tide, Beast), you are not only dropping your ult, but you are also going to be doing a lot of auto attacks and taking hits. Unless you have a support like skywrath who can blow the person the fuck up when you hit the duel, you want that extra staying power. Winning the duel is nice, but if you are bursted down afterwords, its not worth it. So its really support dependent and how much help you will get in the duels.
Its always worth it to die as long as you win the duel. What matters is stacking that damage up asap, and a faster blink helps in that. The only reason you upgrade your boots before blink is for laning purposes, of which you would get phase instead because treads does not help your laning much.
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On August 19 2014 02:36 DucK- wrote:
Its always worth it to die as long as you win the duel.
No it really isn't. During your death timer you should always be able to farm 10/14/18 dmg worth of items.
The whole point is to snowball, and dying fucks up ur snowballing real bad. Its okay to die once or twice post-duel if you get damage and force them to heavy commit and ur team come out ahead overall, but just trading ur life for duel damage ends up in u being super underfarmed and useless.
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On August 19 2014 02:36 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 02:20 Plansix wrote:On August 19 2014 01:53 DucK- wrote:On August 18 2014 10:45 Belisarius wrote:
Most blink initiators skip upgraded boots now, but legion actually wants her treads, so her blink will be slightly slower than a puck's. Why do you really want your treads? I'd get a blink rush over treads first any day, especially when your first few duels should be done with allies. The problem with switch treads is that you want that attack speed in the duel and that extra HP and damage. Unless other heroes that rush blink(Puck, Tide, Beast), you are not only dropping your ult, but you are also going to be doing a lot of auto attacks and taking hits. Unless you have a support like skywrath who can blow the person the fuck up when you hit the duel, you want that extra staying power. Winning the duel is nice, but if you are bursted down afterwords, its not worth it. So its really support dependent and how much help you will get in the duels. Its always worth it to die as long as you win the duel. What matters is stacking that damage up asap, and a faster blink helps in that. The only reason you upgrade your boots before blink is for laning purposes, of which you would get phase instead because treads does not help your laning much.
What snowman said and also you can't control who gets that kill gold. It doesn't help you if you kill off a support, but PA keeps finishing you off for the first few duels. Now your dead with +10 damage and she is PA with another kill under her belt. Its not good getting trades if you end up feeding their cores gold and levels.
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What are good items to get on LC post dual nerf? Now that passives work, is it worth getting stuff like basher, or lifesteal from helm or vlads, or just stick to the same old items?
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After the blademail, dagger and bkb you can get HH the evasion is great and you proc your passive because it hits as it is counted as an attack before it was considered critical or evasion etc... the disarm use is awesome to pop linkens and ofc to manfight even the hardest carries and the only good orb on her is lifeleach for me everything else is waste of slot and money
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If you diasarm them then dual, does the dual override the disarm and let them attack? I know that used to happen.
Edit: ^ also what is lifeleech?
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Oh sorry Im a bit old school i meant lifesteal  and if you disarm the target or you are disarmed before duel you hit each other but if you get laser in the face or he uses etherial blade on you or himself you will hit but do no dmg. The disarm is not passive ability and is disabled by duel.
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On August 19 2014 02:36 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 02:20 Plansix wrote:On August 19 2014 01:53 DucK- wrote:On August 18 2014 10:45 Belisarius wrote:
Most blink initiators skip upgraded boots now, but legion actually wants her treads, so her blink will be slightly slower than a puck's. Why do you really want your treads? I'd get a blink rush over treads first any day, especially when your first few duels should be done with allies. The problem with switch treads is that you want that attack speed in the duel and that extra HP and damage. Unless other heroes that rush blink(Puck, Tide, Beast), you are not only dropping your ult, but you are also going to be doing a lot of auto attacks and taking hits. Unless you have a support like skywrath who can blow the person the fuck up when you hit the duel, you want that extra staying power. Winning the duel is nice, but if you are bursted down afterwords, its not worth it. So its really support dependent and how much help you will get in the duels. Its always worth it to die as long as you win the duel. What matters is stacking that damage up asap, and a faster blink helps in that. The only reason you upgrade your boots before blink is for laning purposes, of which you would get phase instead because treads does not help your laning much.
If I had a mid LC with this mentality i'd just pick pudge roaming and fuck around because the game is lost anyway.
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is legion commander jungle still viable for 6.82b?
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On October 14 2014 09:40 CodeskyE wrote:
is legion commander jungle still viable for 6.82b?
no.
it depends on their picks, but in general lc + lich/sky dual off is one of the best ways to lane her
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On October 14 2014 09:40 CodeskyE wrote:
is legion commander jungle still viable for 6.82b?
You can do it but I don't think it is efficient.
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Im not sold on the bone7 blademail build yet. Like, an armlet should potentially offer so much more for about the same pricetag in combination with the two healingskills.
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bone7 didn't invent blademail on LC that shit's been done since the hero came out
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In duel blademail makes LC to be able to counter every hero and punish everyone who tries to nuke you and armlet does not help vs hard hitting heroes like PA...
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I think blade mail pretty much means you win any duel solo regardless of how farmed the enemy hero is unless bkb got activated.
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I like blademail but I wouldn't get it every time or early on. Mid to late-game no?
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I like blademail a bunch on her, much more so than BKB. She already has pretty good fight mobility with OO and PtA and blademail comes up so much earlier with a better buildup. When I go blademail, I generally get it after my first damage item (almost always deso or maelstrom).
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Blademail is much stronger now that duel no longer disables passives. It allows you to lock down the carry and turn their damage back on them.
When duel disabled passives, most carries didn't have enough firepower to really wreck themselves on it, but now I they do even in the midgame. It also helps deter supports from nuking you.
It kind of feels like a super-cheap cross between armlet and bkb. It helps you solokill things, and it helps you stay alive in big fights.
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On October 17 2014 10:39 Belisarius wrote:
Blademail is much stronger now that duel no longer disables passives. It allows you to lock down the carry and turn their damage back on them.
When duel disabled passives, most carries didn't have enough firepower to really wreck themselves on it, but now I they do even in the midgame. It also helps deter supports from nuking you.
It kind of feels like a super-cheap cross between armlet and bkb. It helps you solokill things, and it helps you stay alive in big fights.
Maelstrom/Blademail builds are pretty silly now on LC, especially against crit heroes like PA.
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