EPTMoC is fine I think, I haven't seen many LC's do it in pub but now that I'm thinking about it it's rather nice. The thing with LC I think is, she has a lot of items/skills that requires you to use before you even duel. Up to 3 or 4 at a time and unless you get help to stall the other team a tad, sometimes having too much will deny that Duel opportunity.
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
MoC is fine I think, I haven't seen many LC's do it in pub but now that I'm thinking about it it's rather nice. The thing with LC I think is, she has a lot of items/skills that requires you to use before you even duel. Up to 3 or 4 at a time and unless you get help to stall the other team a tad, sometimes having too much will deny that Duel opportunity. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Ryder.
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
It comes down to a matter of how the game is going and who you're against. Treads only comes into their own after you have Blink, but whether you want the earlier power from Phase depends on how close your lane matchup is. | ||
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
On August 11 2014 00:25 KOFgokuon wrote: You aren't gonna get your blink dagger before you hit level 6 so.. A good rune and side lane ganking helps pre-blink. Phase having better damage to harass/weaken them down and its important ability aside, I thought OOO's 7 second move speed buff to be quite satisfactory when catching up to someone in a 1v1 lane alongside overall PTA DPS with treads during the Ultimate. And from non experience: Not that I was disregarding phase, I'm sure there's definitely match-ups where you 100% want phase like against NP (essentially easy because of OOO but still) to just slaughter him ASAP without being blocked by creeps. Also re: Blink timings, maybe having your team (yourself too if Radiant) stacking (one or both the) hard/medium camp might help if you want a quick blink outside of farming lane or heroes. With an Enigma's E to cut down trees (or 2 QB charges for Dire?) you can probs do some sick flash farming with your Q when you double pull. | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
United States595 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 11 2014 13:52 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote: Is it me or is this hero just insane with Venge? Swap is a great way to get easy duels before blink and Waves amor reduction and vengeance aura means you auto win duels. Is this just me and Venge is just average and if so what heroes really do synergise with LC. I think LC is great with a number of heroes. Skywrath, Earthshaker(can cut people off with fissure), venge, Bane, Tree. Anyone that can help her set up and turn the tide of a duel is super helpful pre blink and anyone with a debuff is great post blink. I also agree that bottle -> treads is the best way to go. The minimal damage from phase boots doesn't do a lot of a hero whos core item is blink. Then I normally go Deso or AC, depending on how much damage I need to dump or if we need to murder towers. | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On August 17 2014 05:56 BoZiffer wrote: Was shadow blade ever an item of choice on LC over blink? yes. a bad choice | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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TechSc2
Netherlands554 Posts
On August 17 2014 12:48 BoZiffer wrote: What is a reasonable Blink timing to shoot for assuming you go bottle --> treads --> blink basically the same as any blink initiator that plays mid ( puck, magnus etc ). Blink timing on pro level would be around 8 minutes, so for pubs most likely between 9-10 minutes. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
2 minute delay means your opponents core heroes have 650-800 more gold to finish their first core items. So if you miss your timing an early mek could ruin the game. Your duel priority should change to mek. carrier and your teammates should focus that hero to help bursting him down (+5 armor from mek is great deal at the beginning stage of the game.) | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On August 18 2014 11:49 BoZiffer wrote: So 10-11 mins isn't terrible is it? Ideally you want a 8 minute Blink while skipping Ptreads, but that's a really rare case where you outright won mid or you have an extreme advantage (speaking of which LC pretty much roflcopter stomps Tinkers who misplay from level 1-3). | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 18 2014 10:45 Belisarius wrote: Most blink initiators skip upgraded boots now, but legion actually wants her treads, so her blink will be slightly slower than a puck's. Why do you really want your treads? I'd get a blink rush over treads first any day, especially when your first few duels should be done with allies. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:53 DucK- wrote: Why do you really want your treads? I'd get a blink rush over treads first any day, especially when your first few duels should be done with allies. exactly. quicker blink duel = more kills/dmg early = accelerated farm. if you're having a hard time farming and you have good set up for the duel, i would argue that you can go treads first however. but if you're free farming, get that blink and go ham with your team to snowball. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 19 2014 01:53 DucK- wrote: Why do you really want your treads? I'd get a blink rush over treads first any day, especially when your first few duels should be done with allies. The problem with switch treads is that you want that attack speed in the duel and that extra HP and damage. Unless other heroes that rush blink(Puck, Tide, Beast), you are not only dropping your ult, but you are also going to be doing a lot of auto attacks and taking hits. Unless you have a support like skywrath who can blow the person the fuck up when you hit the duel, you want that extra staying power. Winning the duel is nice, but if you are bursted down afterwords, its not worth it. So its really support dependent and how much help you will get in the duels. | ||
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