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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
United States976 Posts
On October 16 2014 02:53 DucK- wrote: Bring back Soul Steal on TB. Combine Conjure and Meta into 1 skill. Give him Zeal or whatever. Ay just give back Soul Steal.. Yikes though, that would bring back the real old school jungle tb afk 30 minutes plz | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19343 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On October 16 2014 13:56 icystorage wrote: Zeal was a stupid skill ._. Soul steal (non-channeling) was okay lol Yea zeal was stupid. But soul steal? At least it was an interactive spell :D just make it don't work against creeps or something. | ||
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Churrass
573 Posts
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Terrorbladder
2717 Posts
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On October 16 2014 13:20 small_farah wrote: people keep saying rip jungle tb but ive had no problems jungling this hero in my rmm games like sure its a bit harder and u have to tank with ur hero a lot more than ud like to throughout but even if u get double centaur in ur medium camps u just kill small camp suicide to large camp while hopefully getting lvl 2 from a creep dying and come back meta to kill it and jungle as usual idk i think tbs still tb but ur noncomittal illusion siegings not gonna work against teams with like nukes maybe another skadi after first bflys legit now idk tho i aint tried going just 3x wraith i usually go 2x wraith aquila boots yasha bots manta/sny If you send 4 spread out illusions they still have to use so so so many nukes. The skadi/bfly thing doesnt change much: you go 3-1 butterflies and 1-3 skadis (4 of those items in total) depending on factors such as nuke damage, how many mkbs they have and so on. I personally tested stout qb in jungle (used to go matrice's circlet circlet qb) and there are no problems at all. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
Going PMS+Wraith+Aquila early should give you PMS+Aquila+Yasha+Wraith+QB+Boots at around 12 minutes. Then SnY+BoT at around 18, Skadi at ~23 and Butterfly around 29. Its really crazy strong at my low MMR (3,9) even though your entire team will flame you for picking jungle TB until you win the game. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34486 Posts
On October 20 2014 02:30 HopLight wrote: I find jungling is still possible from level one on this patch even though the extra damage taken from illusions has gotten a lot worse. Before I used to go circlet+circlet+QB, now I think stout+slippers+QB is necessary to tank damage. Wait, are you recommending jungling from level one? I would never do this. T_T | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On October 20 2014 03:55 Firebolt145 wrote: Wait, are you recommending jungling from level one? I would never do this. T_T I didn't think it was viable until I saw Matrice run it multiple games. It is pretty amazing at least at my low level. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4537 Posts
On October 20 2014 04:14 HopLight wrote: I didn't think it was viable until I saw Matrice run it multiple games. It is pretty amazing at least at my low level. It was viable at all (pub) levels. Matrice solod his way to 6K solo MMR. I copied the build for a while, it's quite similar to Lycan jungle: your team can fuck up all lanes and you still have a chance to bring it back. I think it went qb triple wraith band, yasha, BoT, sange and you splitpush like a madman. T1 offlane is an easy kill when you have some lvls in Meta. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On October 20 2014 05:19 Laurens wrote: It was viable at all (pub) levels. Matrice solod his way to 6K solo MMR. I copied the build for a while, it's quite similar to Lycan jungle: your team can fuck up all lanes and you still have a chance to bring it back. I think it went qb triple wraith band, yasha, BoT, sange and you splitpush like a madman. T1 offlane is an easy kill when you have some lvls in Meta. Interesting. How do you sustain your hp during jungling? do you start with W or E skill? no pms? | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6225 Posts
If the other team doesn't punish it in the first 5 minutes, you just win. And unless you hit a stack or a really nasty aggressive duo/tri, nobody's going to punish it. In fact, when there's one on the other team, the most common teammate response is "lol TB can't jungle why would I bother ganking" into "omg how is TB so big" into getting stomped. Eventually people might learn that they need to hunt him, but for now it's a freewin just like when Kwark made that Lycan guide. Admittedly I haven't done it since the illusion nerf. | ||
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Terrorbladder
2717 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On October 20 2014 07:40 govie wrote: Interesting. How do you sustain your hp during jungling? do you start with W or E skill? no pms? Start with W, spawn illusion at +6 seconds go towards medium camp, spawn another illusion when off cooldown and you should arrive with 2 illusions to medium camp and the possibility to spawn another one during. Let your illusions tank some of the damage and you are actually able to clear out even Centaurs (although Centaurs will get you low enough that you should take small then suicide). With E+W at level 2 you can easily clear out any large camp after which you suicide to creeps. In general depending on spawn luck etc you suicide 2-3 times during the early phase for that quick fountain trip, after that your illusions will be able to tank almost all the damage. | ||
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deadmau
960 Posts
On October 20 2014 14:54 Terrorbladder wrote: Won against TB picker. I just pick Lion. He got free farm and two early kills, but I saw him building Power Treads, so not that worried. He thinks all those illus and metamorph make him a good fighting hero, but in every fight he just gets burst down. Lion was one of heroes my team went to for the 6.80 TB, 2 instant illusion killers, and the burst you'd need for the real one. | ||
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small_farah
United Kingdom6 Posts
On October 20 2014 03:55 Firebolt145 wrote: Wait, are you recommending jungling from level one? I would never do this. T_T i personally think its a more effective way to play the hero in a pub environment tb gets fucked by pretty much any aggro dual lane and junglings the only way you can guarantee yourself the initial farm you need to play the hero its not like spectre or something that can recover from farming safely and getting haunt kills to help your team create space for yourself, and can possibly do things in 2v2 laning situations or other carries that can maybe contribute to winning their lane outright. i mean i guess he has meta and his q but esp with the movespeed nerf idk it just feels that any decent dual lane will just run at u and fuck ur shit up. maybe im wrong because im underestimating tbs laning potential but i only lane that hero if i can guarantee myself a 3v1 laning situation because fuck 2v2 or even 3v2 im too autistic to blame anyone other than myself for missing cs | ||
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Terrorbladder
2717 Posts
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FuzioNda1337
Sweden159 Posts
On October 21 2014 01:34 Terrorbladder wrote: But jungling as TB from level 1 gives your team 2 solo lanes, and only 1 support, which sometimes can result in a horrific disaster. Not if they pick accordingly. | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
Last three times i picked TB and tried to go jungle (Never was 5ht pick, 3rd and once 4th). "I wont solo support" "Only 1 support? Gg I afk" "OMG TB woods, report and muted" this is 4.8k USE. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On October 21 2014 07:28 DV G wrote: Last three times i picked TB and tried to go jungle (Never was 5ht pick, 3rd and once 4th). "I wont solo support" "Only 1 support? Gg I afk" "OMG TB woods, report and muted" this is 4.8k USE. in their defense, playing solo support does, in fact, suck. i generally hate people who pick greedy junglers in solo q, do it with a party | ||
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